Way I understand it,it is illegal.How do you know the deer is dead?Dog jumps it and you put an arrow into it,now you are using a dog to HUNT deer.Don't understand why a warden would praise you for that.That being said,I've ran into some deps that don't know squat.

 

Well say when he goes back home to get the dog he leaves the bow behind,Now its just him and the dog with no intent to shoot.

 

I'm curious on the out come, I just got a coonhound this past spring. I would have never put that much thought behind not taking him.

When I normally shoot a deer with my bow, I head home for a couple hours anyhow.( I walk from the porch to my stand) Grab the supplies I need and a buddy or two.

I'd have just grabbed the dog and gone, But now If its illegal, I dont want him to join the party.

 

Amending my post. After further review and a lengthy discussion with John S. He is correct, using a dog to "Track" big game would be the same as using a dog to "hunt" big game, which would be a violation of Sec.2383 even if the animal is dead.

 

yep takin my dog for a walk. Well lookie there, theres that deer i shot. lol

 

.........oh wow, it's not dead. Now what do I do?

 

if it isnt dead take the dog back you know where it is now.....

 

Thanks for the info, gents.

 

Yep, and you've just broke the law and can get yourself into a bind. The question was asked and answered. Too many like to manipulate the law when it doesn't suit them.

 

looks like some need to check these guys out and get them to push again for the law to be changed!

http://www.deerrecoverypa.org/bill%202797.htm

 

Been brought up several times in the legislature and at GC meetings. Seems there is little support for it. Possibly lack of understanding, or people just don't know about the positives. Then again - some might be thinking it is about running deer with dogs. Either way - this bill and the idea has gone no where.

 

Hunting in a state where in many parts it's legal to run deer with dogs, I can say I hate it. However, I know many guys who hunt that way and love it. It's like the crossbow/compound bow debate. To each their own! We are all sportsman in the end. However, I think the PGC is making a big mistake in not allowing the use of a leashed dog to find a deer that has been shot already. The sheer number of deer that are shot and not recovered is sad. The use of dogs to find them would drop that number greatly without affecting those hunters who are against actual hunting deer with dogs.

 

the last thing i would want to have happen is my dog find a deer i shot and some other hunter shooting my dog saying it was chasing a deer. i know the thread about that got locked, but i think the dog chasing deer law should be taken out of the rules. people on this board are always complaining about unethical and slob hunters but want them to have the authority to shoot someones dog. if people want to shoot dogs, just go yote hunting.

 

I'd have to agree with CJ on this one. If the dog was LEASHED, AND if there were no weapons other than say a hunting knife carried, then more wounded deer would be found. Look at it this way: a hunter wounds a deer but can't find it, dead deer goes to rot, and hunter goes on to shoot another. Two deer killed with only one recovered. Hunter wounds a deer and finds it with a leashed dog: deer tagged and only one deer killed. Seems to me to be a win-win situation

 

Until the law is changed it is unlawful to use a dog to find wounded big game animals, no rationalization will change that. If the general assembly changes the law have at it. Until then follow the law and do not do it.

 

Well, just had a fella send me pics of a deer that was shot last week and lost. Had a leashed tracking dog been available, I'm sure it would have been found. Now, a buck is dead, and the person can LEGALLY go out and shoot another buck. The meat was spoiled on the first buck and he legally can't keep the antlers, but, 2 bucks will probably die this season, when only one would have.

Leashed tracking dogs should be legal. Unfortunately, the legislators can't recognize the benefits.

 

I think 17 states allow leashed dogs to track wounded deer. If some one shot a leashed dog for chasing deer I beleive he would have broke several laws. I can't understand when you have the resorces to find many wounded deer why the Game comm. would not allow it. The key would be "leashed"

 

I think 17 states allow leashed dogs to track wounded deer. If some one shot a leashed dog for chasing deer I beleive he would have broke several laws. I can't understand when you have the resorces to find many wounded deer why the Game comm. would not allow it. The key would be "leashed"

It's not the PGC's call on it. It has to be changed by the legislature.

 

Dutch, I am not arguing the value of a leashed tracking dogs, it is the rationalization on two threads that it is ok to use them now that I am speaking against.

 

Well, just had a fella send me pics of a deer that was shot last week and lost. Had a leashed tracking dog been available, I'm sure it would have been found. Now, a buck is dead, and the person can LEGALLY go out and shoot another buck. The meat was spoiled on the first buck and he legally can't keep the antlers, but, 2 bucks will probably die this season, when only one would have.

Leashed tracking dogs should be legal. Unfortunately, the legislators can't recognize the benefits.

I agree with you but if that guy had an ounce of ethics,that deer would have been tagged.

 

That's where tracking dogs would keep some of these guys from breaking the law, too. How many archers kill a deer only to find it days later, cut the antlers off and walk away?

 

I'll bet that very few guys leave the rack in the woods.If you kill a buck,you should burn your tag,plain nd simple.

Trackin dogs would be good but they aren't necessary.If you would let marginally hit deer lay down without pushing them,the vast majority would be found in short order.The vast,vast majority of fatally hit deer that go unrecovered do so because hunters push them way too soon.

 

the way i view it, if you take the dog without any weapon and you find the deer and it doesnt go to waste then kudos to you. too many deer are shot and not recoved until its too late

 

I'll bet that very few guys leave the rack in the woods.If you kill a buck,you should burn your tag,plain nd simple.

Trackin dogs would be good but they aren't necessary.If you would let marginally hit deer lay down without pushing them,the vast majority would be found in short order.The vast,vast majority of fatally hit deer that go unrecovered do so because hunters push them way too soon.

I Agree with you for the most part, but there is the one time when a buck is running with a doe & stops for the shot & off he goes following her again. not stopping till he runs out of gas. I found the buck that did this to me, but it took over 6 hours of tough tracking that would have been alot easier with a dog.
I have never lost a fatally wounded deer, but had some tough trails. Some were my shots & other were friend's shots. Just saying we should use every available means to find down deer.

 

I used to live by a swamp. A few times, both in archery and in gun, the neighbor had trouble finding deer and came for help.
Always after dark and many places through mud/water at least knee deep. Even when my beagle was old and lame we'd put him on the blood and he'd take off, running and swimming until he found the deer. Some of those deer I couldn't see from 3 feet away.

We were no more hunting with that dog than we were hunting after dark. I supposed we "could" have had a gun along and been coon hunting.

How can tracking with a dog, without a weapon, be hunting?