Not sure it is legal in Pa? Tracking is a part of hunting in the language in our laws and regs and your cell phone is an electronic device.

 

Ooh boy , front row seats here.

 

 

So directly from the digest phones and 2 ways are not to be used to alert to location of LIVE game. Nothing about dead ones.
As usual game laws need to catch up to technology.

 

And what happens if the deer at the end of the blood trail is still alive, if you kill it , you just broke the law, because you used a electronic device to find it.

 

When the day comes that I need an App on my phone to find a deer, I‘m done hunting.

 

wonder what my great grandfather would say about how hunting is today. actually he might not say anything. just dead look out and maybe a head shake

 

I second b.b. , always looking to take the easy button, how about those woodsman skills. techno-hunters,

 

you can say that about almost anything though. it's a slippery slope that EASY BUTTON you speak of

 

I agree and choose to hunt old school. probably not many carry a compass nowadays when it used to be a standard issue

 

I mean I don’t but if I need a compass to navigate where I hunt I shouldn’t be hunting as my memory is too far gone to be in the woods.

As for the app itself I could see it helping guys like our buddy, he always needed someone to help him as he was red/green color blind. The rest of the app is either basic info or tracking which most guys use their other mapping apps for.

I have a Garmin watch with GPS that I use to track my trail while I’m hunting. For example below is the hunt I went on in February, blue is my trail and red was my dog.

 

I do like the fitness app on my iPhone , showing daily steps taken. yeah I have a color blind cousin who always seemed to take marginal shots. he would benefit from its use.

 

Alot of deer have been recovered over the years by hunters that were just using the Softweve App and the Charmin App.

 

I'm so old . I don't know if that's a real thing or if you're making a joke. but either way I laughed.

 

I get it! next post should be , the things you marked blood trails with! ,toilet paper, hats , vests , pop bottles, anything to make a blinker in case you had to backtrack and lost the blood

 

About 10% of men are color blind. I am not color blind but I admit that I have had some very difficult track jobs. I do wonder how well this technology works.

 

Dad worked a co-op job in college early 50’s at Armstrong Cork. His job was to shadow the color blind electrician who also maintained the telephone lines in a large complex. Guy didn’t have much issue with electrical wires but the multi striped phone wires were fun.

 

I get the resistance to progression of technology, but if this app helps a new hunter, or one who isn't that great at tracking, recover a deer that otherwise wouldn't have been recovered, what's the problem?

I see dogs and drones the same way. No, it's not what we did 50 years ago, but if it's putting tags on animals that would have been left to the coyotes, I don't see a problem with it.

 

A lot of folks complain about technology and hunting but are just as guilty. Some lament using a cell phone to help track a deer as the easy button, but pour over satellite photos and property lines of their hunting areas on their cell phones. In the "old days", boots on the ground was the only way to get the lay of the land.

Some pretty cool videos out there of this technology in action.

 

In the "old days", boots on the ground was the only way to get the lay of the land.

Ariel photos have been around since the 30's. Our county courthouse has had arial photos, with property lines and owner info since at least the mid seventies, probably before that. I looked at ariel photos with property lines in several counties in Ohio in the early to mid eighties, and had topo maps of those same areas. It was all public information even in those days, easy to access for anyone. Always my first step in hunting a new area, then and now.

 

I didn't have an atv 50 years ago but I could drag a deer a mile without busting a sweat. Thank God for modern technology(my atv) keeps me in the woods now and able to still hunt...

DPMS after a half dozen trips down to Passavant UPMC below Wexford I would use any device legal to hunt that area. I swear there isn't a flat piece of ground except for a parking lot. Don't know how you gents hunt that area.....

 

DPMS after a half dozen trips down to Passavant UPMC below Wexford I would use any device legal to hunt that area. I swear there isn't a flat piece of ground except for a parking lot. Don't know how you gents hunt that area.....

The worst part is everything high is developed. The hunting is off of the sides and everything runs downhill when shot!

 

Technology will leave us all behind. AI will be the end of mankind. I was watching a business module on how the federal Government will implement AI over the next 10 years, and it's not good. Property taxes were a big one. Currently, taxes are assessed horizontally with boundary lines. With AI, the plan is to tax the total land mass acreage. So, if you own 100 acres but there's a mountain or a large hill on that 100 acres, AI will measure the vertical acres and tax accordingly.

 

Federal go

Federal government doesnt assign property taxes, county governments do that in Pa. Taxes arent assigned on land mass, they are assigned on property value. A property with a nice mountain is already more valuable than swamp land. Same with farm land. Structures add value, nice big house is more valuable than a little shack.

If your county even mentions AI to access property values, you the voter have the final say.

 

I’m color blind, but it’s weird. I have track and helped track more wooded deer than I care too, but it’s part of the game. When I’m following a blood trail, I usually don’t see blood as red, it’s more of a dark wet spot on the ground, same with snow cover. With snow it looks like someone sprinkled pepper along the trail if it's just drops or spray. Now if I reach down and touch that spot with my bare hand or finger then look at my finger I see red, much like I cut that finger. As I said it’s weird, and I have to look and concentrate a lot harder than some one who isn’t color blind, but I have got it done.

 

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I won't use anything AI if I can avoid it. Everyone thinks AI is wonderful! I say it's just another example of the not so long and winding road to end of the mankind.

 

A hard hit deer leaves a lot of blood. In archery season, they should drop within sight or sound of you. When you have to squint and get down on your knees, there’s a problem. Doesn’t mean you won’t find it, but you didn’t hit it in the right spot or the right angle, or it would be laying there dead.

Probably blood trailed at least 200 deer. Within 80-100 yards, I can pick out the deer that won’t be recovered with about 90% certainty. Once in a while you will see something that surprises you.

 

A hard hit deer leaves a lot of blood. In archery season, they should drop within sight or sound of you. When you have to squint and get down on your knees, there’s a problem. Doesn’t mean you won’t find it, but you didn’t hit it in the right spot or the right angle, or it would be laying there dead.

Not doubting your experience but I have double lunged deer with little blood. High entrance and exits, arrow hits other shoulder on way out. Good arrows exits gut on way out. Lots of reasons why blood may be sparse till the deer falls over. Also, the great majority of deer I hit in archery I do not see go down. I shot 6 last year in archery and only one fell in sight, I believe. Many of the areas I hunt are super thick. Lots of invasives. I lost a doe some years ago. Good double lung hit confirmed on video. Horrible blood. Grid searched. Found her up under a log in early winter after the foliage died back and she was only 40 yards from where I hit her. Walked right past her several times while looking.

 

I too have seen solid hits produce pretty thin blood trails.

Hydrogen peroxide is a great way, and cheap, way to determine whether it's a red color splotch on a leaf or blood.

That said, if this app was free I'd try it just for kicks.

 

if this app was free I'd try it just for kicks.

I'm with you. I wouldn't pay for it. But maybe mess with it if it was free.

 

I remember back in the 80's a company I logged for used areal photography to look for timber. Oak prices were through the roof and they held their leaves after most others had dropped. So he could pick big patches of Oak and try to buy them.. Google earth pics are kind cool. Checked one of my logging jobs once and you could see my skidder parked on the landing and most of my skid trails. Google earth street view has my deceased father sitting on the porch 4 years after his death....

 

I'd play with it if there was a free version. As it can't differentiate between red leaves and red blood, it might be pretty useless for me. About 10 or 11 years ago my brother made a marginal hit on a buck late in the afternoon. We tracked it into the night until we lost blood. The next week I bought a luminol kit to use the next time we ran into the same problem. It's supposed to make blood glow. I never got around to trying it out. I still have it. I wonder if its still any good?

 

The app itself is a good idea but all that it looks for is red it has like a 5 minute limit without paying for the full version that let's you mess around

 

I won't use anything AI if I can avoid it. Everyone thinks AI is wonderful! I say it's just another example of the not so long and winding road to end of the mankind.

Just watched I Robot with Will Smith again last night. Funny how that movie and Terminator pretty much got it right!