depends how short you want to go. remember that the shorter the barrel the louder the muzzle blast will be and might cost you some accuracy. you will have to work up a load for the rifle to where you dont have a lot of fire shooting out the end of the barrel. how long are the barrels on the rifles you have now.

 

might cost you some accuracy

I've always been lucky that with the several guns I've had cut down to make them more maneuverable, the accuracy either stayed the same or actually improved. I'm sure it is possible for it to become worse though.

 

Had one of mine cut down. No accuracy issues. I've come to appreciate the shorter barrels for some types of hunting.

 

If you like the looks of the carbines, go for it. Real world, I don't see where any benefit to 3 1/2" less barrel would ever actually be noticed other than between the ears. The negative attributes may be more obvious, though.

 

Good luck. A lot of engineering went into the design. If you think the alteration is worth it, go for it.

 

I wouldn’t really say all that much “engineering” went into it, the receiver on the 760/7600 style rifles is longer so they cut the barrel back to 22” to keep it roughly the same length as a Remington 700 with a 24” barrel. For the carbine they cut down to 18” as that is the best balance between shorter length, velocity loss and muzzle blast.

Accuracy has nothing to do with the length of the barrel. The longer the barrel, the more the bullet rattles around in the bore. As long as you do not go beyond 18 1/2 inches you will be fine.

You can buy a barrel - no reason to cut down the barrel you already have, but the question is - WHY?

Unless you are 5'6 - there is no benefit to carrying a carbine rifle.

If you use a 150 gr bullet and 58 gr of IMR 4350 - all of the powder will burn inside of the barrel.

The only time you see the muzzle flash is in the dark.

No idea what you are talking about with bullets rattling down the bore of a longer barrel, if that’s the case buy a better rifle. Without getting into the weeds longer barrels provide more velocity at the expense of weight and maneuverability but don’t really affect accuracy though shorter barrels can be slightly more accurate in a bencrhrest setting.

Sitting in a blind or driving thick cover that 18” barrel can definitely have a benefit in the maneuverability department as it’s much easier to move around with a shorter rifle. Size of the person doesn’t really factor in.

 

A cut, re-crown, drill tap and install front site for $100 sounds really cheap to me. If you don’t mind me asking who’s the gunsmith? (Pm is fine)

If you plan on keeping the gun do as you choose if you plan of selling it one day… the custom chopped pumps are a hard sell. Factory carbines seem to be like gold though.

If you plan on chopping the whelen please don’t do that and just sell it to me the way it is 😁

 

I have an original 760 Carbine in a 30-06, 18 1/2" barrel my dad bought me in the early 70's and still use it for deer and bear here in PA. If you do a lot of walking or like to "drive" bear through the thick stuff, the carbine is the ticket. Muzzle blast is an issue, but my Dad liked that cause he always knew when I was shooting especially when I would usually empty the clip. Cut that baby off, you'll love it.

 

i use a rem 7600 carbine in 3006 and it shoots 165gr bullets with 55 grs imr 4350 into1.5 " 3 shot groups at 100 yards and some times a little smaller. you do get a little more muzzle blast, but i never notice it when shooting at game and its a nice carry with out snaging on brush. it comes down to a personal choice.

 

Honestly, why bother... unless your on your hands and knees crawling through Mt. Laurel it really won't make that much difference..it will affect velocity but no one can tell you for sure about accuracy until holes are put in paper...and if the crown is cut even slightly off line you'll wish you hadn't bothered...

 

I picked up a sawed off old model 06 760 prob 20 years ago while on a work trip to southeast pa. Nicely done and reblued with cheap ramline stocks, but somebody dropped in the rocks, and it was gouged up a bit. Didnt affect function, and i wasnt gonna use it for pretty little walks around the woods, or just sitting in stands and groundblinds. It has become my favorite and most used deer weapon to date. Handles great in the brush and while climbing in the rocks etc. Anyone who says a shorter barrel is less "accurate" than a longer barrel, has no idea what they are talking about. Ask a benchrest guy. So my 18" 30-06 now has velocity more like a 308 than a 22" 30-06? So what?! Deer and bear still die in front of it. The bullets dont bounce off of them, and the bullets dont go winging off towards Catmandu just cuz the barrels a bit shorter than remington sent it out the door with!? Im right about an inch group for 3 shots at 100 yards with a max load of varget and a hornady 150 gmx. A speer 165 bt and a similar loading of varget did the same....as they both did in my 1978 factory 22" gun. So long as your smith does a good job with the crown, $100 is a steal for the increase in maneuverability.

Muzzle blast?!?!?! Who even hears that while shooting at game?!?! Fire out the end?!?! Get a faster burning powder of it bugs you....done...and what does it matter?!? All barrels throw fire out the end......whether you see it or not is another matter...... next issue?!?!

Note - i did have to replace the rear stock with a rem factory synthetic stock cuz the ramline unit flexed SOOOO much in the pistol grip that it was stringing vertically a fair bit at 100 yds. Factory unit is much stiffer, and with the monte carlo raised comb, my eye lines up better with the scope. But I LOVE that ramline forearm!!! The shape and grip is fantastic! A buddy keeps trying to get me to sell the forearm to him. They quit making them years ago.

Tip of the day - 20 ga rem 870 stocks fit the 760's, but the old model receiver rears like mine are machined a bit different than the newer ones apaprently as my stock didnt quite mate up to the receiver right. No prob as it shoots fine. I recently saw an adapter somewhere for sale to make 870 12 ga stocks fit 870 20 ga frames......cant remember the company now.....should work for 760's also?

I want one now to send to JES for a rebore to either 338-06 or the Whelen and be shortened to 18" or 20" for the ultimate woods gun. In reality though, those cal's wont do anything the ol 06 wont do with a good bullet.....and have ya seen the price of bullets over 30 cal lately?!?!

 

You're trading 30-06 velocities for 308 velocities. If that matters in the Woods?

 

Accuracy has nothing to do with the length of the barrel. The longer the barrel, the more the bullet rattles around in the bore. As long as you do not go beyond 18 1/2 inches you will be fine.

You can buy a barrel - no reason to cut down the barrel you already have, but the question is - WHY?

Unless you are 5'6 - there is no benefit to carrying a carbine rifle.

If you use a 150 gr bullet and 58 gr of IMR 4350 - all of the powder will burn inside of the barrel.

The only time you see the muzzle flash is in the dark.

 

I have a 760 and 7600 in 30-06, great rifles (both carbines). They are my go to when putting on drives.

 

I have a full length 760 in 35 REM and one in 06 that has been cut to carbine length. The carbine just seems to carry so much easier, it also has the stock shortened and comes up perfectly every time.

 

I'd go for it if it's the 06, yeah cut that barrel down if that's what ya want and see if your gun smith can put an 11 degree target crown on the muzzle and your accuracy should actually increase.

 

I've had both the 760 rifle and the 760 Carbine. There's a lot to be said for both configurations. I made the longest shot of my life, a 300 yarder, with the rifle

 

You would think (as I did) 3-4 inches doesn't make much difference as far as handiness, maneuverability in a blind or going through brush etc, until you try it.

 

A bullet doesn't rattle down a barrel unless the bullet is undersized. A longer barrel has more harmonics and a shorter barrel is stiffer. That's why you often gain accuracy by shortening a barrel

 

My rifle above went from good to excellent groups with a shorter, stiffer, recrowned barrel.

 

Not sure what you did but I had good results going from 22” to 20”. I’m now looking for a beater to chop down to 16.25”. Here it is, the deer didn’t notice the -2”.

 

If you ever want to go to Canada, nothing less than an 18" barrel is legal up there. Probably not an issue, just putting it out there.

 

Very good point.

 

Just got back from my FFL with my new/old 760 gamemaster in 308. Very nice gun for its age. Can’t wait for next bear and doe season. For you gun gurus, how do I determine the year it was made.thanks…

 

I’ve had a few carbine model 760/7600 and currently have a 7600 .308 that I had cut to 17.5” and it’s great. I have it set up with a leupold 2.5-8x36. Light, balanced and compact but it still doesn’t quite do it for me like a model 700 or model 70. I did kill a doe this year with it and it’s a joy to carry. Hard to beat a carbine pump or lever in the woods although I’ve found my bolt .270s to get the job done no problem

 

A little off topic, but...

The first couple years Remington produced the model 700, it came with a 20" barrel in standard calibers. Iv'e see them refered to as carbines, but 20" was the standard barrel in non magnum calibers. As far as i know, 700's were never produced in a carbine configuration.

 

Couple things here...

The tube magizine in the 141's had a "screw" design that kept the point of the bullet behind off the primer of the cartrige ahead of it. It was designed so pointed bullets could be used in it, and Remington loaded 150 gr pointed soft point ammunition for it. The action was a simple single lug at the top of the bolt that disengaged or engaged when the slide was moved. As was said, it wasn't strong enough for '06 class of cartriges.

The 300 savage was one of the original chamberings for the 760. Also, all 760's use the same action, theres no difference between short and long, only the magizines are different.

And for anyone interested...

 

No Jerbo, the .300 Savage was not a "special run". It was a standard offering throughout the 50s. And Vietnam did not begin in the 50s either unless you were French