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Predator rifle question

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#1 ·
Was at my buddy's house today after some flintlocking hunting in the morning. He was talking about his upcoming predator hunt and asked me a question that stumped me. I think I'm usually pretty good on regs. He asked if he removed the gas tube from his AR if it would be legal to hunt with. In case you don't know, removing the gas tube prevents the action from cycling semi automatically. It must be cycles manually with the charging handle, no differently than a pump or bolt action basically at that point. I don't know the answer to this. I told him that if he got field checked which he likely would if a wco saw it, he would have to explain and demonstrate the manual functionality to the officer. The gun is by definition no longer semi automatic (just has the appearance of it). He has it set up with a nice tactical illuminated reticle scope and has a bipod on order. Is he correct?
 
#4 ·
Last I checked into it as long as the gun was modified in a way that it could not be readily be converted back to semi in the field then yes. Though just removing the gas tube would not suffice by this rule as it could very easily be replaced in the field.

That being said I have an AR based rifle that I made a few years ago which is legal here as the barrel is not even drilled for a gas block and my custom upper I designed cannot even accept a gas tube without reaming the hole larger. I also converted this to a side charge handle with no provisions for the un-ergonomic rear charge handle.
With my system it is a straight pull bolt action rifle which accepts all AR accessories.
 
#7 ·
Almost hate to bring this topic to light again...Unless the law has changed...A few years ago I had my Colt modified so I could hunt legal in Pa. I had a gunsmith (who was a deputy game warden) at the time do the conversion. He took out the gas tube and plugged the gas port with a steel rod and pinned with a roll pin. There is no way the rifle can be reconverted in the field unless he or she is equipped with a punch and a lot of patience. After the conversion, I had my District Game Officer exemine the conversion. He told me that this conversion meet all laws in Pa, and was a firearm converted into a "manually operated" firearm in Pa. I have since harvested a doe with my Colt. I use a factory Federal 60 gr Nosler partition. I will be the first one to tell you, I only used my converted Colt on private land on SGL on weekdays. Be careful and good luck. I hope this helps. Doc in Pa.
 
#9 ·
I'm sitting here looking at a new lower and wondering "what am I going to build?" Maybe I'll try manualy operated AR (then it wouldn't be an ar).

Doc is extraction an issue?
 
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#10 ·
blitzinstripes said:
Thanks for the responses. I will tell him he needs to plug the port and pin the plug in place.
A simpler option would be to buy a new upper with the modification in place. He could then switch between uppers depending on what he wanted to do. An upper starts around $500 and up.
 
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