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Junior License holder question

16K views 33 replies 11 participants last post by  springfreak  
#1 ·
I don't know if this question has been fielded here before, so sorry if it is a repeat. If you are a junior license holder who has turned 17 since you have bought your license, are you still "eligible" to participate in all the "youth hunts"? Reading the definitions in the rule digest it is not really clear, go figure. Any WCO's input would be appreciated.
 
#33 ·
How about North American Hunt club.. they keep sending me stuff to join as life memebr.. cost about $300.. I called and said stop.... I can wait and you will offer me to join for $10.00 a year..

$300 would be 30 years... I'd be pushing 100 ... still keep getting the junk in the mail though.. ?????
 
#30 ·
Yeah it s tough sometimes to decipher the ands and ors. Actually you can hunt forever on your regular adult license, there are people who don't get a senior license. Unless things have changed, you only had to be old enough to buy a senior license to participate in the senior, junior, disabled doe season, you didn't actually need a senior license.
 
#29 ·
John.. I have always read your post and appreciate them.. now I have a comment on a similar topic regards AGE ...

I already have the answer



Talk about confusing....



getting the answer took over an hour with Harrisburg and 4 people at the PGC on Monday...

legal and law enforcement ---one said one thing the other said the other...

senior antlerless hunt on the 22nd..


I have a regular license... not a senior one... if you read page 43 in states one thing and page 9 adds something different...

I turn 65 on March 7,2010.. can I hunt this year using my regular tag ????

the "and" and the "or" came into place on this one too that's why I am mentioning it.


BTW the answer --- yes I can hunt it this year with my regular license...
 
#28 ·
Found it!

R. S. B. said:
Lugnut said:
What is the age limit for youth hunting? My daughter turns 16 at the end of August. Will she be able to participate in the 2008 youth doe hunt?
Yes!

Actually the age of what constitutes a legal youth hunter for the youth hunts varies somewhat by species. You need to look in the digest for the species you plan to hunt on a youth hunting day to confirm the age limitations; they can be a bit confusing since they are not the same for all species.

I will try to make it as easy to understand as possible by doing it by species.

Youth waterfowl (ducks and geese) - Age 12 - 15 (not eligible upon 16th birthday due to federal regulations) (must have a hunting license and state migratory stamp - no federal duck stamp required) At age 16 federal migratory stamp is required.

Squirrel and pheasant - Age 12 - 16 (not eligible upon 17th birthday) No license is required though they must have passed their HTE class and testing.

Antler less deer - All Junior license holders - Age 12 - 16 and some 17 years old provided they were not yet 17 years old when they legally purchased their junior license. Must have and antler less license and valid tag to hunt for or harvest an antler less deer.

Spring gobbler - Junior license holder - Age 12 - 16 and some 17 years old provided they were not yet 17 years old when they legally purchased their junior license. Must have a license and valid spring turkey tag.

Mentored hunting for youth under the age of twelve have different requirements and are subject to limited species that do not include all of those listed above. Consult the digest or get further guidance on the mentored program.

Dick Bodenhorn
 
#27 ·
The guy where I bought our licenses tried to argue this point with me. Insisted that my daughter who turned 17 the end of August would have to purchase an adult license and was ineligible for the youth hunts.

When he ran her through PALS it wouldn't let her get an adult license, kicked out a junior.

R.S.B. explained this very well last year, I wish I could find that post. I actually printed it for future reference.
 
#24 ·
It could be clearer but if you look in the green header on page 13 it says 12 to 16 year olds or junior license holders. Then below it says 12 to 16 year olds without a license and junior license holders. What is the fly in the ointment is the 12 to 16 applies only to those without a license. Go figure.
 
#22 ·
I just spoke to the PGC and the youth seasons with the exception of the waterfowl season does include junior hunters who have turned 17. The waterfowl season is ages 12 to 15 because at 16 you need a federal duck stamp. The addition of youth hunters with a hunter ed card and no license is new since I retired and it required the ages of 12 to 16 being included in the digest which is what screwed me up. So, I was wrong on that. Have fun with it.
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#21 ·
i beleieve springfreak had a good interpretation of the regs, i had the same thoughts when i read it. he also backed up his understanding with a reaffirming call to the region office, and he has the name of who told him the rule in case their is an issue.
 
#19 ·
I'd "go by" what John has said, since he is one who helped write such things and would've been the person to clarify such issues, anytime someone "from the field" called to ask for that clarification. Neither the wording nor the meaning has changed, since he retired.

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Most times it's only the "opinion" of the right person, that counts? The Digest clearly indicates only those who are between the ages of 12 and 16 are eligible. Eligible being the clarifying word, here.
 
#16 ·
Well, I'll tell you what John, if you are correct, and I'm not saying you are'nt, then they need to change the wording because "OR a junior license holder" is then misleading and could get a lot of people in trouble.. Let me ask you a question, have you ever run into this situation in the field and if so, how did you handle it?
 
#15 ·
Nick is wrong, 12 to 16 doesn't mean 12 to 17, it is the age, not the class of license. I suggest you call the bureau of law enforcement in HBG.

For the early deer and youth turkey it is the class of license and you may be 17 if you bought the license at 16. It isn't a one answer question because there are different licenses for the different youth programs. My God, how hard is this really? It is in the book, if it doesn't say or, or is not there!
 
#10 ·
DennyF said:
Digest, P.21:

Squirrel (Youth Hunt 12-16 yr. old; Jr License holders)
Combined species; eligible junior hunters (12-16 years old without a license who have successfully completed a HTE course and Junior License holders) and accompanied as required by law and mentored youth hunters.

It specifies the same age limitations for the Youth Pheasant Hunt, same page.
exactly: And junior license holders!