Any body here do this,shoot at a rolling tire?
It sounds like fun.
It sounds like fun.
Deer Shooting Practice--Rolling Tire !
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I normally wouldn't take a texas heart shot but had no choice a few years ago.I was still hunting along the top of a ravine on the last day when doe came hobbling along below me.She was hit hard right at the very top of her front leg.She stood below me on a bench and I put one right below her tail as she was getting ready to go down the hill.I would never take that shot on a healthy deer but wasn't about to let her suffer so I took the only shot I had.Rules change for me when a deer is suffering.
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Practice is practice. Anyone ever consider that maybe by shooting at a rolling tire, a hunter may come to the realization that "they" shouldn't take a shot at a running deer?
Shooting practice is how you learn what limitations you own.
Shooting practice is how you learn what limitations you own.
Good point.One year I couldn't hit the broadside of a barn with my flintlock.I put a bi-pod on it and had a deer stop broadside at about 25 yards.The deer dropped like a rock and I thought that bi-pod was the ticket.It turned out that I hit her right in the white patch of the throat and I was aiming for her lungs.I went 5 or 6 year before I even considered hunting with that thing again.I had no business being in the woods with it.
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In the BP community...the real ML BPers, practice on a big variation of targets almost year around. From paper to eggs from a few feet to 200 yards...all pure off hand.
Woodswalks have various clangers...from donut shaped with a big hole in the center, to a vertical chunk of pipe hung from chain. Triangles, feathers sticking up out of a log. Anything goes. I remember one that required lining up a shot through a hanging piece of 12 inch pipe.
Another time a squirrel (plate steel) that ran on a track and exposed itself between logs other natural things....
Running deer...runs on cable attached to trees on a downhill slope. You have to hit the metal clanger located over the kill zone as the deer goes between two trees....lickity spilt.
Pumpkin roll contests....F&I war era events. Place a very light load in a smoothbore and try to roll a pumpkin without the ball going through....
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Even those who are great at such things on one day, maybe off on another. From all that fun, you can pattern your skill level and make good decisions when confronted by wild game.
Woodswalks have various clangers...from donut shaped with a big hole in the center, to a vertical chunk of pipe hung from chain. Triangles, feathers sticking up out of a log. Anything goes. I remember one that required lining up a shot through a hanging piece of 12 inch pipe.
Another time a squirrel (plate steel) that ran on a track and exposed itself between logs other natural things....
Running deer...runs on cable attached to trees on a downhill slope. You have to hit the metal clanger located over the kill zone as the deer goes between two trees....lickity spilt.
Pumpkin roll contests....F&I war era events. Place a very light load in a smoothbore and try to roll a pumpkin without the ball going through....
Even those who are great at such things on one day, maybe off on another. From all that fun, you can pattern your skill level and make good decisions when confronted by wild game.
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Some fellows from BC Canada told of one event that has a mock stockade with gun ports. A team event where they have to hit clangers at various ranges. However, on a cable that comes off the mountain they are shooting into, is a BIG water balloon rolling toward them at time they can't predict. One guy on the team has to focus on that balloon and hit it as it just starts to appear out of the trees. The closer it gets, the angle changes and the balloon if missed will rake across the pointed tops of the stockade. The balloon has enough water capacity that it will drown every pan
on the team....
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All this shooting activity is nothing but practice....and if you can make it fun...you own the day.
on the team....
All this shooting activity is nothing but practice....and if you can make it fun...you own the day.
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From woodswalk shoots, I've learned that a vertical target, such as a 6 inch, 1 inch diameter chunk of pipe is a high percentage shot...for me. Turn that crysler horizontal and I'll flub almost every time.
I've learned that shots on squirrels, my high percentage shot is one where the squirrel presents a more vertical target. I have a devil of a time hitting one horizontal. So, I pass on the one and wait for a shot I know I can hit.
I make the same decisions on any game based on what I've pattern myself target shooting. Haven't got my high percentage shot...let the darn thing go for another day.
I've learned that shots on squirrels, my high percentage shot is one where the squirrel presents a more vertical target. I have a devil of a time hitting one horizontal. So, I pass on the one and wait for a shot I know I can hit.
I make the same decisions on any game based on what I've pattern myself target shooting. Haven't got my high percentage shot...let the darn thing go for another day.
Give it a break Gene.Nobody is rolling tires up and down hills to practice.If you want to defend "the deer ain't dying if the lead ain't flying mentality" that's your business.I'll continue to wait for a good shot.Things don't always go right when everything is perfect.Why multiply the chances of failure by taking a stupid shot?
You're reaching again.Huge difference between shooting a running rabbit with a shotgun at close range and a deer with a rifle.
You're reaching again.Huge difference between shooting a running rabbit with a shotgun at close range and a deer with a rifle.
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If someone wants to shoot at rolling tires more power to them. As long as it's safe. I hope they learn their personal limitations and make decisions accordingly.
The guy dragging all the tires back up the hill is getting some good deer hunting practice. I want him for my wing man...
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The guy dragging all the tires back up the hill is getting some good deer hunting practice. I want him for my wing man...
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So you are stating that everyone that states that they practice shooting moving targets with rifles are lying? Hmmmm.......... BTW, I have said three times I think that I am not defending those that take shots at running deer without some sort of practice. Not sure why you keep insinuating I am?dce said:
Nope. I agree there is a difference but the context of why it was originally brought up is vital to the point that was made about lead on moving game.
Yes,I think they're totally full of crap.I'm not saying no one hasn't tried it but they aren't even doing it on a semi-regular basis and they aren't doing it over and over again.
Gene,the closer and slower the target(rabbits don't run all that fast)the smaller the margin of error with the lead.Shooting a running rabbit or a pheasant isn't rocket science and it doesn't take that much skill.Hitting a running deer in the vital at 100 yards is entirely different.
Gene,the closer and slower the target(rabbits don't run all that fast)the smaller the margin of error with the lead.Shooting a running rabbit or a pheasant isn't rocket science and it doesn't take that much skill.Hitting a running deer in the vital at 100 yards is entirely different.
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I'm on your side with this one dpms. It makes completely no sense to say that anybody shouldn't shoot a running deer. That is one of the most rediculous things I have heard on here and there are plenty of dousies. Just because you or any of your kids or old chums can't doesn't mean there are people that can. You are perfectly right in saying that 9 out of 10 people at the range probably can't do it but that 1 guy just might be able to. Don't tell him he can't.
I shoot a lot of shotgun, probably 200 rounds a week. I don't shoot moving targets with a rifle the same way. Rifle I pick a spot out front of the deer and squeeze when he hits the hairs. Ambush style. I have yet to kill a deer at 100 yards or more. Usually 50 or less. So to tell me I shouldn't be shooting or can't make the shot is crap.
I shoot a lot of shotgun, probably 200 rounds a week. I don't shoot moving targets with a rifle the same way. Rifle I pick a spot out front of the deer and squeeze when he hits the hairs. Ambush style. I have yet to kill a deer at 100 yards or more. Usually 50 or less. So to tell me I shouldn't be shooting or can't make the shot is crap.
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I've shot a few running deer, but only if the situation is right, and I feel confident with the shot. I prefer the stationary shot for sure though. Do I practice shooting at moving targets, No, but I know when the deer is in the cross hairs it is dead.
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3 D archery gave me a world of knowledge on what shots not to take...One of the targets was a running deer I got pretty good at the running deer on my home range at the same distance time and time again; However it taught me I do not have enough skill to take that shot in the wild on a real deer.Curly Maple said:
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Same with a flintlock on a running deer target. You can get pretty good at it...providing ignition goes perfectly.Born2Hunt said:
For me, running deer are just for looking at. Hope when it stops its in front of a kid.
IMO, A woodswalk course with various shapes of clangers and distances is as good as it can get for sharpening skills before hunting season. Much like 3D archery. No reason why a centerfire..or rimfire, can't be used. Just need a good backstop behind each target.
For heavens sake....shoot! Hold a camp/family contest each year....start a tradition. Make a fool of yourself. Laugh.
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When it comes to shooting moving targets, whether running deer with a rifle or flying birds with a shotgun, it boils down to this.
Your brain is the computer and tells you how far and fast the target is moving. The rest is eye, hand coordination. If you practice with a firearm (shotgun or rifle) often enough, your "computer" tells the eyes and hands how to get it done.
There's no doubt that my shotgunning experience carried over to my ability to shoot running deer with a rifle.
I shot and killed alot of running deer over the years. Matter of fact shooting at a standing target gets pretty old after awhile. I prefer the moving target for the extra challenge it offers. Anybody can kill a standing target.
Your brain is the computer and tells you how far and fast the target is moving. The rest is eye, hand coordination. If you practice with a firearm (shotgun or rifle) often enough, your "computer" tells the eyes and hands how to get it done.
There's no doubt that my shotgunning experience carried over to my ability to shoot running deer with a rifle.
I shot and killed alot of running deer over the years. Matter of fact shooting at a standing target gets pretty old after awhile. I prefer the moving target for the extra challenge it offers. Anybody can kill a standing target.
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Seems more like buck fever than a real shooting problem.
Still if it was running you could have left it and tracked in the morning. Shooting at a wounded deer just adds distance to the tracking.
But like I said I don't judge anyone for trying to shoot a deer that is running.
If I think I could make the shot with the firearm I am holding I take the shot if not I wait for a better shot. Waugh!
Still if it was running you could have left it and tracked in the morning. Shooting at a wounded deer just adds distance to the tracking.
But like I said I don't judge anyone for trying to shoot a deer that is running.
If I think I could make the shot with the firearm I am holding I take the shot if not I wait for a better shot. Waugh!
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