[Q2XL12]

I had to reread the post because that little statement right there is the key from what I gather.

I thought I wasn't allowed to put my own racks on plaques

 

[BrianC]

The law states that you cannot do Any type of taxidermy work with out a license period. <u>Not even your own. </u> You must purchase the license before doing any taxidermy from what I have read.
Any one in business should also have a PA Sales Tax License. All taxidermy work is taxible.

Go to the Dept of Ag. web site and talk to Mary Martin.

 

[700varmint]

with all the "do gooders" on this site; there is no way anyone can tell me that a taxidermist that visits this site does not have a current licence.

I think all professionals should be licenced no matter what trade you practice and I am also glad that there are organizations like the PTA to watch over and watch out for that trades best interest.

 

[JUST FISH]

From the PA Dept. OF Ag. website

A taxidermist is any person who holds himself out to the public as a taxidermist or mounts any specimen and requires such person to register with the department on a form prescribed by the department.

Wow, I didn't know that. Did that change when the Dept of Ag took over the licensing??

I don't even agree with that. Now I understand why people are [censored]. The law is the law, but.

 

[KenBuck]

That's BS.

They better build another prison because 1/2 the hunters in the state, including me, buy those antler mount kits to display their trophy - if it isn't big enough to have a shoulder mount.

You (no one in particular) mean to tell me, I can't buy a $20 form, a couple eyeballs from Vandykes and a bottle of alcohol and mount a squirrel for myself?????? LET ALONE SLAP A SET OF ANTLERS ON A PLAQUE????? Something has got to be wrong here.....

Geez.

 

[FlyFish322]

You're contradicting your OP.

 

[Q2XL12]

I'll go along with needing a license to perform serivces for others but I find it hard to believe I cant cut out my own plaque, bolt and bondo a skull cap to the board, plaster of paris and cover this with velvet without being legal?

 

[tundragriz]

The first stipulation of the clause is "holds himself out to the public". This does not mean doing it for yourself or a friend with no fee involved. It means commercially, for a fee, offering a service to the public, providing goods or service for a fee to the general public.

Then the clause describes the act for which the above condition applies, identifying oneself as a taxidermist, "or", perhaps you are trying to skirt around that professional distinction then simply "mounts any specimen".

So it is "person who holds himself out to the public" as a "taxidermist or mounts any specimen". Taxidermist and mounts any specimen refer to the same entity. To alter the intent and meaning by simply saying "anyone who mounts any specimen" as a standalone condition requiring registration is taking it out of context and ignoring the "public" stipulation.

A few minutes ago I did call but didn't get the above named individual, they said she was involved with the deer program, but the individual I spoke with was emphatic there is no need for licensing if no money is involved, there's no income, no tax liability. In fact they had some harsh words if someone licensed was giving out information to the contrary and offered a self serving reason as to why a licensed person would do that.

http://law.justia.com/pennsylvania/codes/2010/title-3/chapter-27/2702/

 

[BrianC]

You're contradicting your OP.

No I'm not. You need to go read the post, and go read the Dept of Ag's law. I'm not doing it for you.

 

[ng270]

the individual I spoke with was emphatic there is no need for licensing if no money is involved, there's no income, no tax liability. In fact they had some harsh words if someone licensed was giving out information to the contrary and offered a self serving reason as to why a licensed person would do that.

 

[Q2XL12]

Doesn't get much more clear than that. Thanks T Griz

 

[BrianC]

§ 2702. Registration.
Any person who holds himself out to the public as a
taxidermist or mounts any specimen shall register with the
department on a form prescribed by the department. The
registration shall include at a minimum the person's name, the
business name, the address and telephone number and the person's
or business tax identification number. For purposes of this
section, the tax identification number may include any of the
following:
(1) Federal employer identification number.
(2) Unemployment compensation account number.
(3) Social Security number.
(4) State personal income tax identification number.
(5) State sales tax number.
(6) Corporation tax number.
(7) State employer withholding number.
(8) Any other identification number acceptable to the
department.

 

[RidgwayHunter]

Thanks for clearing it up TG glad I dont have to worry about spending 100 dollars on a lisc to do my own skulls and antler mounts.....not that I would have been worried about such a ridiculous law if that was actually the case

 

[wife-to-mike-o]

i am just guessing, but were these laws put into place to control disease (cronic wasting)? i am sure they dont want everyone messing around with brain matter and all that. if they stop the general public, they can control and monitor it better.

 

[garbru]

I am guessing the law was put in place to satisfy greed.

$100 is far to steep of a fee especially since it was determined that it would cost around $50 for the data entry/filing/mailing.

Thanks for the heads up Dave/PTA.

 

[JoeSimmons]

100 fee is cheap as far as i am concerned,its been that way even when pgc was involved, i would like to see it set at 500.

 

[KenBuck]

100 fee is cheap as far as i am concerned,its been that way even when pgc was involved, i would like to see it set at 500.

JoeSimmons - I see you are a full-time taxidermist?

When you get your license, do you have to renew every so often?

 

[blitzinstripes]

The law states that you cannot do Any type of taxidermy work with out a license period. Not even your own. You must purchase the license before doing any taxidermy from what I have read.
Any one in business should also have a PA Sales Tax License. All taxidermy work is taxible.

Go to the Dept of Ag. web site and talk to Mary Martin.

The words I read stated that only if you presented yourself to the public. bet me that any deer hunter can't display his own antlers on a board without a license. After tagging, or demonstrating posession under legal harvest when taging is not required- I am the legal posessor of the antlers and every other bit of tissue belonging to every bird, fish, or mammal that I harvest, and fully entitled to do whatever I choose with their flesh and bones. If the dept of Ag ever tried to prosecute anyone for doing their OWN work, any small town lawyer should be able to get the charges dropped. That law seems to be in direct contradiction with PA fish and game laws concerning the posession and utilization of legally harvested fish and game as it pertains to one's own private use.

 

[Dave Dillon]

After seeing work go down the road because I charge tax and someone else don't, I have a problem with that.
After being accused of running a scam charging tax and "my other taxi didn't" I have a problem with that.
After numerous calls from price checkers asking why I charge tax and the last 3 they called don't, I have a problem with that.
When someone can collect full unemployment benefits and have a taxi business and nothing is being done, I have a problem with that.
When one can be on public assistance and have a taxi business, I have a problem with that.
When my taxes are raised because the state is out of money and others are causing that by not charging tax, I have a problem with that.
When one can run a taxi business in a housing development with rules against that and nothing is being done "because he don't have a sign up so he's not running a business" I have a problem with that.
As you can see us taxis have a lot of problems with the system in place and no one enforcing these issues.
Now for your problems.
When you take your critters to an unlicensed taxi and they get busted and you lose your deposit and animal, you will have a problem with that.
When you take your animal to a taxi that don't charge tax and they get shut down and you can't get your trophy back because the doors are now locked, you will have a problem with that.
When you take your deer to some one that you know don't have a license but were cheap and they pack up and take your money and deer out of the state and there is nothing you can do about it, you will have a problem with that.
When you take your animal to some one that was cheaper than the others you called and get it back and it looks like crap and the magistrate says "you got what you payed for" you will have a problem with that.
Now lets quit beating up Brian and see what we can do about OUR problems.
1 take your animal to a licensed taxidermist
2 take your critter to one that does charge tax
3 do your homework, ask for references, go to their shop and check it out. If you don't feel comfortable about them or are hoping you get "a good one" go somewhere else till you feel comfortable.
4 support the businesses that are doing everything by the book and not the fly-by nighters.
5 call and report anyone that is not running a legal business, it will save you and the next hunter that calls him, a headache.
Doing these thing will help to solve OUR problems!

 

[JUST FISH]

Well said Dave. I get a lot of people asking for CASH DEALS. My response is yes you can pay me in cash but you will still pay sales tax and I will still claim it.