[Vonfoust]

Eveland and Bastian. 🤦‍♂️

 

[Wingatchtochwilsit]

Deer urine based lures and scents should have been banned years ago.

Honest question: Has anyone ever tested the urine-based lures and scents for the presence of the prion?
Or is this a case of "could be present, let's throw it all away" without having evidence?

 

[milboltnut]

PGC.... the way they word it, sounds like speculation. Read it for yourself in this years digest. My argument is that they "believe", or "can be spread" instead of, are spread, and that's not conclusive, is it ?

Here's another......"eventually leading to death" and then in the 3 paragraphs later....how stupid does this sound??? "more likely? to die annually than uninfected deer" which is it ??? they can't even conclude one way or another ! LOL

And another...."tiny holes to form in the brain" and why not say they test the rest of the meat of an infected deer to show if the prions spread through out the body ???? They just conclude about the brain, and central nervous system. Personally....... I don't think the PGC has qualified people to determine the reason for the epidemic or able to identify the cause.

I don't think it takes a person to be more educated then just reading the write up in the Digest, really I don't.

 

[DIYASUB]

Eveland's announcement was made in 2019 and it's been more than 18 months. In what States has his cure been used on public or private land? What are the results of his cure being used?

 

[milboltnut]

Called LSU AgCenter.....Dr. Frank Bastian left LSU in 18'. Not an official staff member but utilizing the lab facitlites. He is currently working at the University of New Orleans, LA doing the same. Currently he is working on the CWD vaccine and is very hopeful. His email address is fobastia@uno.edu

 

[Vonfoust]

He was there as a non-tenured prof. They terminated their relationship with him.

Notice of Privacy

triblive.com

 

[Hammer47]

Like I always say, " If you can't dazzle the with brilliants, dazzle them with BS.

He keeps trying and digging!

 

[milboltnut]

He was there as a non-tenured prof. They terminated their relationship with him.

Notice of Privacy

triblive.com

I give him alot of credit

 

[Vonfoust]

I give him alot of credit

Who and for what?

 

[milboltnut]

Who and for what?

Dr. Bastian's and his attempt to find a CWD vaccine

 

[Vonfoust]

Dr. Bastian CWD vaccine

He got kicked out of a university and has no vaccine.

 

[milboltnut]

He got kicked out of a university and has no vaccine.

He currently works at the University of New Orleans

Me: How is your progress going?
Bastian: Please refresh my memory re who you are?????
Me: I am just curious how your research is going on Chronic waste disease. Me: I'm just a hunter wondering.
Bastian: All is going well .. Survived the storm IDA.. Thanks for your interest

 

[Vonfoust]

He currently works at the University of New Orleans

They give him space. He pays for that space. That's why USPa is fundraising for him.
And about that vaccine......

 

[milboltnut]

They give him space. He pays for that space. That's why USPa is fundraising for him.
And about that vaccine......

Ok.... It seemed like you were saying he isn't doing anything anymore. I did mention he went to ULO

 

[DIYASUB]

 

[milboltnut]

DIYASUB

Bet people had the same mentality about polio and other vaccines.

 

[DIYASUB]

Bet whatever you can afford to lose. I'm old enough to remember that Dr. Salk was held in very high regard for his work in coming up with a real and effective vaccine. The same goes for others throughout history, once their work was confirmed.

 

[milboltnut]

Bet whatever you can afford to lose. I'm old enough to remember that Dr. Salk was held in very high regard for his work in coming up with a real and effective vaccine. The same goes for others throughout history, once their work was confirmed.

So why the medicine man pic? You’re doubting what someone is legitimately trying to accomplish and comparing them to a conartist. Doesn’t make you look good, DIYASUB

 

[DIYASUB]

So why the medicine man pic? You’re doubting what someone is legitimately trying to accomplish and comparing them to a conartist. Doesn’t make you look good, DIYASUB

I understand that you feel bad about nobody on HPA having any belief in what Eveland is saying. With no proof whatsoever that the claims he makes are valid there's little chance of changing anyone's mind.

 

[DennyF]

Some background: USP took PGC to court trying to halt doe season in 2007. IIRC, Commonwealth Court initially granted USP a preliminary injunction, but the case was finally dismissed in Feb. of 2008. The court's decision was announced in the morning, before that day's opening at the Outdoor Show (Now the NRA's GAOS). Heard it on the news and helped spread the word at the show.

State sued by sportsmen again over its deer hunting policy ** Unified Sportsmen: Immediately halt doe hunting on public land.

For the second time in two years, the Unified Sportsmen of Pennsylvania has filed a lawsuit it hopes will derail the Game Commission’s controversial deer-management plan and allow the state&#…

www.mcall.com

During that show, USP had signs up soliciting donations for their court case. When they were informed their case had been dismissed, they kept the signs up and donation jars out.

I obtained depositions from several of USP's leaders relative to the court case. Some of them gave conflicting answers in those depositions, when asked about their membership numbers, for example

Few, if any of their responses under oath, offered any clear evidence as to why they'd filed the law suit. Their reasons mostly had to do with their belief, that PGC was not managing deer numbers to suit USP.



For the past several shows, they've had signs up and jars out, soliciting funds for Bastian's CWD project and touting Bastian's efforts, while denigrating other CWD research projects. Bottom line, there are multiple CWD research efforts going on and none have been able to confirm Bastian's claims.