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Anyone have any knowledge of this youth shotgun?

Tristar Viper G2 Youth/Compact Series
The popularity of the Viper Series warranted a Youth model. All the features of the standard version, the youth/compact model, with a slimmer forearm and shorter buttstock, is perfect for growing kids or smaller statured shooters . Comes with 3 choke tubes (IC, M, F).
 

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I don't know anything about the gun you mentioned but did want to pass on some info...
Real light in weight youth gun...Like a single shot for example that breaks open...They kick like a mule when you use 20 gauge High Brass..OK for low brass, target, and dove loads etc..

You don't want your child to end up with a blood blister on their trigger finger or worse yet a flinch.
 

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I would never start a kid on a hammer gun. Too much chance they will forget to put the hammer down if they don't shoot after cocking and small hands decocking a hammer gun is another chance for an accidental discharge, couple that with cold hands and it makes it worse.
 

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I remember when I started hunting...it was an old LeFever double-barrell in 16 gauge. The shotgun in still floating around in the family somewhere. It was passed along to almost all the kids who started hunting. The gun was pretty beat (dinged, dented, and scratched) when I started over 35 yrs ago....but it still brings a smile when I happen to see it. Alot of pheasants fell victim to that gun....
 

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they make a mossberg modle 500 batman for the youth it is allsome and they shoot great the stock has spacers you add as they grow i just order one for a kid you can find them for 310.00 if you shop around im getting one from wolfs sporting goods for that price most placese they are 350.00 and yes it is a pump dont buy a kid a hammer gun please
 

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Almost everybody I know started out with an H&R 20 gauge single shot. Every single one of them have all ten fingers and ten toes. So do all the people they ever hunted with.
 

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I just looked up that gun the original poster asked about. It's a semi auto. Don't know why the hammer issue came up.
 

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You never investigated hunting accidents did you? I was respondng to Uncle Buck's post about single shot guns. I also started out with a single shot hammer gun, I still wouldn't recommend any other kid do it.
 

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John S. is right on the money.
Even though many of us started out with single shots and hand me downs that were too big for us to handle properly, it's not the way to go today.
A youth semi or pump is the way to go. They almost always fit the shooter better, recoil less, can be fitted with a longer stock as the shooter grows, and can still be used as a single shot until the shooter is ready for multiple shots.
 

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Wouldn't break my heart if they did away with those lever action rifles for kids cuz of the hammer deal. But that is just me
. Same as that shotgun the family has a 30-30 Marlin getting passed around. To date I don't know of any family member who killed a deer with the dang thing. I hated that rifle! I killed more deer with a recurve bow than I did with that 30-30 up until I got my own rifle.

It was jinxed I tell ya!
 

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hunt/fish365 said:
Almost everybody I know started out with an H&R 20 gauge single shot. Every single one of them have all ten fingers and ten toes. So do all the people they ever hunted with.
+1 for me on the H&R 20 bore. Still have it... the boy will grow into it when he's finished with the Rossi Matched Pair .22/.410.
 

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John S said:
You never investigated hunting accidents did you? I was respondng to Uncle Buck's post about single shot guns. I also started out with a single shot hammer gun, I still wouldn't recommend any other kid do it.
I agree with John S too about guns with hammers. Yea get the kid a pump.. Not so sure a semiautomatic would be a good first gun either...
 

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UB,

Why?

The semi can be loaded with just one shell. No one said you had to fill the magazine. Semi have less recoil. I guess a single shot pounding the snot out of a slightly built kid would be better. What great way to start a kid out with a flinch.
 

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Tcaddis said:
UB,

Why?

The semi can be loaded with just one shell. No one said you had to fill the magazine. Semi have less recoil. I guess a single shot pounding the snot out of a slightly built kid would be better. What great way to start a kid out with a flinch.
I see nothing wrong with this.. Many of the Bantam Model 500 come with a longer dowel rod that you can make the pump a single shot. I suppose you can do the same thing with the semi too? Use a long dowel rod inside so it can only be used as a single shot?
 
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