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I have recently wrote to the PGC to ask the board to revisit the WMU's that currently have only 1 week of rifle hunting for does during the two week season. I would like the board to consider allowing junior license holders and Mentored Youth hunters to be permitted to harvest a doe the first week of rifle season. Most of these hunters have 1 or 2 days off school the first week. Perfect time to harvest a doe. Once the first Saturday rolls around, we all know the deer have changed travel patterns and obviously it becomes more difficult to find a doe. Plus if you have a bad weather Saturday (like in 2014, fog/rain all day) it really hurts the youths chances in WMU's that currently don't allow harvesting the first week. I have heard from Mr. Weaner (who has never been a fan of youth opportunities) he stated enforcement would be an issue. My thoughts are enforcement is an issue regardless of laws due to lack of personnel. Mr. Weaner stated he would like to go back to a 2 week season to eliminate that issue. Also, if the PGC allots a certain number of licenses, does it really matter if they are used the first week or the second week? I will be attending the meeting in January and speaking to this issue as well.
 

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I have been harping bout this for years in my post..first week should be doe for all and second week just bucks..plus guys that get that day off work that got there buck with the bow,,family and friends that come home to hunt a few days cant hunt doe,,,good luck and thank you
 

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cspot said:
I agree with you DJS.
X2, we enrolled our property in Dmap this year for this exact reason. We are in 3A which where I hunt in 3A there are doe everywhere. Can only imagine what the deer population will be like next year due to very very little shooting the second week. Anyway my son connected on his first ever deer this year on the first Monday of rifle season. A big mature doe. Glad we own plenty of acerage to be able to Dmap to give my son an opportunity at his first that was taken away from him this year.

Couldn't be more proud of my boy.

 

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As a kid I was never afforded all these luxuries? We hunted before or after school and when we took off school and Saturdays, I was taken out of school for the doe days too. In my opinion, we are "spoiling" kids, just like households and parents do today and give a false sense of the "efforts" required. You think hunters cry today? Wait until the "now" generation gets into their 50's....
 

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Too much all about deer these days.

When we were young we cut our teeth on squirrels, rabbits, ground hogs, and pheasants back then. Plenty of opportunities to take kids hunting. Youth days out there for waterfowl, pheasant, squirrels, rabbits etc. as well as the regular and extended small game seasons.
 

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I am all for getting kids interested in hunting......with that said I believe this needs squashed.....I took up hunting way before all of these new fangled rules that cater to kids and guess what I stuck with it not because of the deer that I saw or killed.....but because of the people who I was with my dad, uncles, grandfather, and family friends who taught my brothers and I what hunting is really about. Now when I mentor a kid, I will almost bet you if we never hear a turkey gobble or see a deer, they will and do have a productive day in the woods. Teach them what it means to be a true OUTDOORSMAN/WOMAN and they will stick with this for life. I sometimes think that if dad would quit whining, about the way things used to be, the kids would be better off because they would be none the wiser.
 

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pahoytman said:
Too much all about deer these days.

When we were young we cut our teeth on squirrels, rabbits, ground hogs, and pheasants back then. Plenty of opportunities to take kids hunting. Youth days out there for waterfowl, pheasant, squirrels, rabbits etc. as well as the regular and extended small game seasons.
X2 It's not all about deer.
 

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pahoytman said:
Too much all about deer these days.

When we were young we cut our teeth on squirrels, rabbits, ground hogs, and pheasants back then. Plenty of opportunities to take kids hunting. Youth days out there for waterfowl, pheasant, squirrels, rabbits etc. as well as the regular and extended small game seasons.
Exactly!
 

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First of all I don't think this proposal is warranted. There are a number of opportunities the PGC has put in place for youth hunters that I fully support.
At the same time the rationale from many of the posts that we didn't have it 40 years ago, so they don't need it now needs further consideration. The world has changed dramatically from 40 years ago. I bet many of you who said that have 50 inch flat screen TVs, smart phones in your pockets, etc. Your parents and grandparents didn't need them 40 years ago, so why do we?
We should all at least acknowledge circumstances are different for today's youth and form our opinions/recommendations based on the current conditions.
 

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HomeintheWoods said:
First of all I don't think this proposal is warranted. There are a number of opportunities the PGC has put in place for youth hunters that I fully support.
At the same time the rationale from many of the posts that we didn't have it 40 years ago, so they don't need it now needs further consideration. The world has changed dramatically from 40 years ago. I bet many of you who said that have 50 inch flat screen TVs, smart phones in your pockets, etc. Your parents and grandparents didn't need them 40 years ago, so why do we?
We should all at least acknowledge circumstances are different for today's youth and form our opinions/recommendations based on the current conditions.
Great perspective and very well said.
 

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pappybear said:
pahoytman said:
Too much all about deer these days.

When we were young we cut our teeth on squirrels, rabbits, ground hogs, and pheasants back then. Plenty of opportunities to take kids hunting. Youth days out there for waterfowl, pheasant, squirrels, rabbits etc. as well as the regular and extended small game seasons.
Exactly!
My goodness the squirrels and rabbits, the miles we walked chasing fall turkeys and grouse. Deer hunting was a quick two week season for me back then and although a lot of fun it wasnt the end all be all and didnt define my year. I really enjoyed all of the small game opportunities and hunting I did prior to deer season. Hunting with the guys at camp... Yes that is why I stuck with it. Thanks for bringing back the memories. It wasn't all about the deer or getting a deer. It was about the time spent in the field. We hunted hard for every species including deer but deer was not the only singular game animal that was targeted. Teach the kids how to hunt everything. When they are young getting shooting at squirrels and rabbits is just as exciting as getting a deer.
 

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Just give the kids the same opportunities to hunt that adults have.My son has been hunting since he was seven and I just took him out and made him hunt the way I do.I don't oppose an early doe season for kids but they can also hunt with an inline,like everyone else.Same with the late season,give them a flintlock and let them experience that challenge.I'm one of the biggest youth supporters out there but they don't need special seasons and they don't need anything to make success easier.My life revolves around taking my son hunting and I don't care one bit about any special season.I'd be much happier if they just let the kids hunt in every season and let them get their own tags.
 
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