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The Pirates can never pay what New York or Philadelphia is willing to.

So why don't the Pirates pack up ship and move?

New York City could use a 3rd team, maybe out on Long Island or New Jersey.

Go somewhere else and make a lot of money.
 

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They are already swimming in cash.They don,t want to spend anymore than absolutely necessary.Yes,I think they knew they blew it with Morneau and Burnette,but they will still make a ton even if they don,t duplicate which we all know isn,t a reality.It will really take a collapse to hurt em(which could very well happen).
 

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What is the obsession with Morneau? They screwed up on AJ.

Wonder if Tampa fans complain about the same things bucco fans do?
 

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The Pirates could pay top dollar if they wanted to. The owners are smart, they're making a ton of money not doing it, so why change. To them it's not about winning, it's all about the money.
 

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The Pirates make a TON of money , one of the MOST PROFITABLE teams in MLB.
2014 tv contracts / revenue sharing = 78 million
2014 "projected" payroll = 74 million with 5.5 of that being paid by Houston.
That's a + of 9.5 million , and that's without 1 ticket , beer ,or hot dog being sold.
Good 'ol Bob Nutting ,he's no dummy when it comes to business.

Now if your asking when will the Pirates SPEND $$$ ?
Not till Bob sells the team ....
But why would he.
 

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Unfair comparison. Completely different markets. The median household incomes (city limits only) is almost $10,000 higher in New York (of course cost of living varies).

Add to that those who work and play in New York that have significantly larer incomes (I didn't see P. Diddy at the Bucco playoff games).

You have to compare apples to apples.

I think what your point should be is when with they spend money. The answer isn't that simple. They are a mid-market team. They got a sweetheart deal for Andrew McCutchen and hope that Pedro follows suit (he won't) and that is how they stay competitive.

The Pirates were basement dwellers for years for a variety of reasons. Baseball finanacials hindered small markets, poor decisions by ownership, and in my opinion awful scouting. (You don't get that many top 5 picks and not eventually get competitive). Of course you have to spend money to sign players too.
 

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bushmaster said:
The Pirates could pay top dollar if they wanted to. The owners are smart, they're making a ton of money not doing it, so why change. To them it's not about winning, it's all about the money.
That's it right there.
 

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I won,t care one bit if Alvarez leaves and hold the door open so he can leave.He commits to many errors and will never be a quality infielder.Maybe it has something to do with the stupid way he wears his hat.
If he was a quality infielder I would think they would want to lock him up.But unlike the sports announcers I don,t believe he is goin to keep up with the runs like he did in the second half of the season.If his hitting does improve or holds steady he will probably end up a DH in the American league.
 

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Unfair comparison
Respectfully disagree with you. Both are MLB clubs.

So if the Pirates cannot compete with big market clubs like the Yankees and Mets, why bother?

Baseball is never getting a salary cap
 

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good ole boy said:
They are already swimming in cash.They don,t want to spend anymore than absolutely necessary.Yes,I think they knew they blew it with Morneau and Burnette,but they will still make a ton even if they don,t duplicate which we all know isn,t a reality.It will really take a collapse to hurt em(which could very well happen).
Blew it with Morneau?
Yeah boy they sure are gonna miss those 3 RBI's in 77 AB.

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Respectfully disagree with you. Both are MLB clubs.

So if the Pirates cannot compete with big market clubs like the Yankees and Mets, why bother?Baseball is never getting a salary cap
You're so right, they should just dis-ban all the teams that can't compete in payroll with the likes of the Yankmees and Boston. Just have 6? 7? teams in the MLB. Makes sense.


The Bucco's net worth is $479 mill with a payroll of $80 mill. 94-68 record in '13. The Yankmee's net worth is $3.3 BILLION with a payroll last year of $228,106,125. 85-77 record in '13. Yep, 'ol Nutting he sure is an idiot, huh?
 

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Dobsonknob said:
Unfair comparison
Respectfully disagree with you. Both are MLB clubs.

So if the Pirates cannot compete with big market clubs like the Yankees and Mets, why bother?

Baseball is never getting a salary cap



Why bother he asks? Even a caveman could figure that out! To make MILLIONS!!!!! It's a no brain er!
 
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