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There was a call made to the local game warden the first Monday of buck season about several local camps baiting. These camps are situated on an old strip mine and can easily be seen from the adjoining hill. From this hill you can see the bait piles and the hunters in their towers. Hunters out of both camps hunted the entire 2 weeks of buck season and never got busted. Why should I waste my time to report a poacher when nothing gets done. This is not the first time for this to happen?
 

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I feel a lot more people are baiting now a days, especially since you can put the liquid attractant down, unless the deer have a huge hole dug in the ground you'll never know it's there. And my buck I killed this year had a belly full of corn, there isn't corn around for miles..... but it's surrounded by posted property.
 

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ow do you know nothing is being done? Maybe there is an ongoing investigation.If you want answers call the regional supervisor and ask to speak to him.
 

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Why on earth would they be left hunt the entire 2 weeks of deer season? I can sat on the opposite hill and could easily see the bait piles and the hunters. Should not the property be posted do to the baiting with muzzle loader season starting? There is no ongoing investigation. The warden never took the time to check the site out.
 

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Why on earth would they be left hunt the entire 2 weeks of deer season? I can sat on the opposite hill and could easily see the bait piles and the hunters. Should not the property be posted do to the baiting with muzzle loader season starting? There is no ongoing investigation. The warden never took the time to check the site out.
your property you hunt to will be posted if they think the deer are coming from your land to the corn just an fyi
 

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Cal the regional office again and ask to speak to the Law Enforcement Officer In Charge. Expalin what is going on. He will ask the other questions from there.

Please - take the time once more.
 

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No I have made enough calls. This is the second time I have reported baiting and nothing is ever done. They are more interested in playing with robo deer.
 

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tidbow1 said:
Why on earth would they be left hunt the entire 2 weeks of deer season? I can sat on the opposite hill and could easily see the bait piles and the hunters. Should not the property be posted do to the baiting with muzzle loader season starting? There is no ongoing investigation. The warden never took the time to check the site out.
your property you hunt to will be posted if they think the deer are coming from your land to the corn just an fyi
They are never leaving the poachers land. They have no need to and it is not my land any way.
 

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i agree what dale an tee said.its not legal so i dont partake.but my thoughts on baiting is i dont think its poaching.i think that baiting done right would be a useful tool.bring deer in to judge size,if its a button buck ect..i think baiting would give better shot oppertunities instead of some idiot shooting at a running deer unloading his gun while the deer covers hundreds of yards with some guy shooting the whole time not paying attention of what the deer is running buy like other hunters.i think a deer comeing to a bait pile would give younger hunters better chance to see deer an shoot them an hook more youngsters into hunting.i think there would also be less wounded deer during hunting season also.(who would hunts a bait pile from over a hundred yards)
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i agree what dale an tee said.its not legal so i dont partake.but my thoughts on baiting is i dont think its poaching.i think that baiting done right would be a useful tool.bring deer in to judge size,if its a button buck ect..i think baiting would give better shot oppertunities instead of some idiot shooting at a running deer unloading his gun while the deer covers hundreds of yards with some guy shooting the whole time not paying attention of what the deer is running buy like other hunters.i think a deer comeing to a bait pile would give younger hunters better chance to see deer an shoot them an hook more youngsters into hunting.i think there would also be less wounded deer during hunting season also.(who would hunts a bait pile from over a hundred yards)
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Let me see if I got this right ... you're suggesting using unlawful methods for junior hunters to kill deer so that young hunter get "hooked" on hunting ... correct ? ? ?
 

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No I have made enough calls. This is the second time I have reported baiting and nothing is ever done. They are more interested in playing with robo deer.
If this are the facts, you really need to call and talk to a supervisor, That is the only way you will find out what if anything was done. And if not why. IMHO opinion there is no reason for this. If supervisors know then they can weed out the ones not doing the job. When you call the regional office the call is recorded and an incident number generated in the CAD system, the WCO is the only one that can clear it.
 

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Pa-plinker if you read my post i said its not legal so i dont do it or condone anyone that does it were its not legal.but i did say that if it was legal or in a state that it is legal it could be used as a usefull tool.id rather see some guy sitting on a baitpile hunting than him get excited about see a deer running by an deciding to empty his gun at it while its running an then shoot some poor smoe sitting on a stump a hundred yards away.on one of the game lands me an my boy listened to this guy fire 5 rounds an then reload an fired another 3 inless than 2 minutes this is unsafe an you hear it all season long this is the main reason i like archery seaso the best.
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I don't consider it wasting my time. I consider it an investment in the wildlife i derive tremendous enjoyment from. While I would be disappointed if a report I made seem to have no impact it wouldn't stop me from reporting it again, and reporting the next incident I witness. A waste of time? How much? 15 minutes max. Hardly alot of time to invest.
 

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tidbow1 said:
Browning300mag! said:
tidbow1 said:
Why on earth would they be left hunt the entire 2 weeks of deer season? I can sat on the opposite hill and could easily see the bait piles and the hunters. Should not the property be posted do to the baiting with muzzle loader season starting? There is no ongoing investigation. The warden never took the time to check the site out.
your property you hunt to will be posted if they think the deer are coming from your land to the corn just an fyi
They are never leaving the poachers land. They have no need to and it is not my land any way.
There you go, if you don’t have the time and interest to see the reporting through to the end I hope they kill all of the deer over that bait that might have otherwise been coming to you.

Those baiting the deer onto their land aren’t hurting the Game Commission or the WCO so if it isn’t important enough for you to follow up on it why should the WCO care either?

Besides I would be willing to bet there is a lot more being done than you think. For one thing the WCO can’t just go in and post private land against hunting or perhaps even make an arrest on it without first jumping through a lot hoops which might include even sending a letter to the landowner telling them to cease and desist with bait. We as hunters might not like that but it is one of the things that got jammed down the throat of the Game Commission following the State Legislature getting all upset when some of their rich political contributors got busted for hunting over bait on their club lands a few year ago.

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tidbow1 said:
Browning300mag! said:
tidbow1 said:
Why on earth would they be left hunt the entire 2 weeks of deer season? I can sat on the opposite hill and could easily see the bait piles and the hunters. Should not the property be posted do to the baiting with muzzle loader season starting? There is no ongoing investigation. The warden never took the time to check the site out.
your property you hunt to will be posted if they think the deer are coming from your land to the corn just an fyi
They are never leaving the poachers land. They have no need to and it is not my land any way.
well any trials they find going to and from will get shut down... we had huntin camp a 1/4 mile away and our land was shut down for you to say the deer are not is kinda dumb but alright
 

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Ever think that they were watching and knew about it but were waiting to see if they killed anything over it? The fines and punishment for killing game over bait is way more significant than just hunting over bait. Something gets killed over it, way different ball-game. Just my thoughts on it.
 

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R. S. B. said:
tidbow1 said:
Browning300mag! said:
tidbow1 said:
Why on earth would they be left hunt the entire 2 weeks of deer season? I can sat on the opposite hill and could easily see the bait piles and the hunters. Should not the property be posted do to the baiting with muzzle loader season starting? There is no ongoing investigation. The warden never took the time to check the site out.
your property you hunt to will be posted if they think the deer are coming from your land to the corn just an fyi
They are never leaving the poachers land. They have no need to and it is not my land any way.
There you go, if you don’t have the time and interest to see the reporting through to the end I hope they kill all of the deer over that bait that might have otherwise been coming to you.

Those baiting the deer onto their land aren’t hurting the Game Commission or the WCO so if it isn’t important enough for you to follow up on it why should the WCO care either?

Besides I would be willing to bet there is a lot more being done than you think. For one thing the WCO can’t just go in and post private land against hunting or perhaps even make an arrest on it without first jumping through a lot hoops which might include even sending a letter to the landowner telling them to cease and desist with bait. We as hunters might not like that but it is one of the things that got jammed down the throat of the Game Commission following the State Legislature getting all upset when some of their rich political contributors got busted for hunting over bait on their club lands a few year ago.

Dick Bodenhorn
So let me get this straight. If a land owner is baiting you need to send them a letter to stop before arresting them. This WCO had 2 weeks to make an arrest for baiting. These hunters were there every day in their shooting towers and yes deer were shot over the bait.
 

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R. S. B. said:
tidbow1 said:
Browning300mag! said:
tidbow1 said:
Why on earth would they be left hunt the entire 2 weeks of deer season? I can sat on the opposite hill and could easily see the bait piles and the hunters. Should not the property be posted do to the baiting with muzzle loader season starting? There is no ongoing investigation. The warden never took the time to check the site out.
your property you hunt to will be posted if they think the deer are coming from your land to the corn just an fyi
They are never leaving the poachers land. They have no need to and it is not my land any way.
There you go, if you don’t have the time and interest to see the reporting through to the end I hope they kill all of the deer over that bait that might have otherwise been coming to you.

Those baiting the deer onto their land aren’t hurting the Game Commission or the WCO so if it isn’t important enough for you to follow up on it why should the WCO care either?

Dick Bodenhorn
For a guy with "supposed" PGC ties, is this a serious post?
 
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