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The joke that I see about the Obama voters are stupid or that they're just dumb, well it isn't true.



Which states have the largest amount of the 47%. Haha too funny, you guys rail against people from the most "conservative" states.


Now this is one of my faves since I have seen some of the sheeple here say let the blue states go and we'll just go with the red. Well here it shows you those blue states are subsidizing the red states. Chew on it for awhile, let it digest and realize so much of what you have thought to be true, just isn't.




There's many of you here who talk about socialism and redistributing and other boogeyman stuff and you have know idea that it's some of your most beloved heroes that implemented and started the programs that you all now despise.
6 of the top 10 are red




It might be time to scrap the GOP and Republican name altogether and start a new party, since your name is tarnished and stuff your party has wanted you're all now against.
 

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Say it ain't so!
 

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Take another look there professor
...You have Va. being blue and red depending on what you want to portray

Typical leftist logic?


And that was just a quick scan...
 

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Take another look there professor ...You have Va. being blue and red depending on what you want to portray
I think that is why they put dates on those things.
 

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No surprise here whatsoever. I ain't no Einstein but quickly saw through this continually flip flopping GOP candidate. Mitt's spokesman continually had to come out & say: "Mitt didn't really mean what he said". What a total joke & then some..

Plus...when cornered on his tax plan same thing: http://www.romneytaxplan.com/

The American People have resoundly sent their message on Election Day...like it or not! If the GOP support continues in this same vain of immature name calling, childish allegations(challenging birth cert, college transcripts(the Donald fiasco), Eastwood stupidly speaking to an empty chair etc etc)....the GOP will soon cease to exist in being a viable platform if it already hasn't reached such dismal level. The American People ain't that clueless/stupid as this Election results resoundly echoed !!
 

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There is a very common phenomena known as "being educated beyond one's intelligence".

Ya can't fix stupid. You can only hope to alter its intensity. Common sense is not taught in any school or university. The NEA won't permit it.
 

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More good stuff from the "conservatives"

When was the last a R administration ran a balanced budget? Hint: his nickname was Ike.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-big-lie-of-the-day-republicans-balance-federal-budgets/

Next those free 'Bama phones all the R's cry about. Look no further than the beloved Ronald Reagan and thank him for them.
Link for the fact: http://transition.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Common_Carrier/Reports/FCC-State_Link/Monitor/mr98-2.pdf

The healthcare individual mandate was a brainchild of the conservative Heritage Foundation. Google is your friend here.

Low income housing credits was started under the Tax Reform Act of 1986, who was POTUS in 1986? Hint his initials are RR.

Bailing out banks and auto companies began under someone with the middle initial W.

All these things "conservatives" rail about and against are brain childs and by-products of their own policies. My favorite is that they rail against people paying no tax, yet the biggest reason for this is the child tax credit, which began under Nixon or Ford and expanded under Reagan, Bush 41 and Dumbya.


Here is some more to chew on. You can read whose policies helped to create the now villified 47%.

I'll highlight a few key points though:

The breaks in question - the earned income tax credit and the child tax credit - are based on core Republican philosophies of encouraging work to lift people out of poverty, Republican aides and many conservatives say.

The number of Americans not owing federal income taxes has been growing since the mid-1980s, and the increase largely stems from expansion of these two tax credits - championed by Republicans from conservative economist Milton Friedman to former President Ronald Reagan.
"It is absolutely true - there is some degree of disconnect between complaining about the 47 percent and yet supporting the policies that brought it about," said economist Alan Viard of the conservative-leaning American Enterprise Institute
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The income credit began under Republican President Gerald Ford and was significantly expanded by Reagan. The child credit doubled to $1,000 under Republican President George W. Bush.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/19/us-usa-taxes-47percent-idUSBRE89I08T20121019
 

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The American People ain't that clueless/stupid as this Election results resoundly echoed !!
Evidently half of them are. They voted bobo back into office.
As you know DIYA...I don't lower myself nor entertain responding to "name calling" type posts as my guess many others are turned off by such also. If you can somehow refrain from such I will entertain a response thereto accordingly.
 

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Take another look there professor ...You have Va. being blue and red depending on what you want to portray
I think that is why they put dates on those things.
Even more leftist logic.... use one set of dates then another depending upon your point


No wonder ya fell for Obamas line
 

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If that is all you got, it's a no wonder the GOP is weak nationally.

I find it telling that there's no comment about RR and amnesty? Or no spin as to why there's been no balanced budget by any republican since the late 50's? Or how the child tax credit helped to create it? All you got is what date the maps are from, that's weak, address(try and spin) one of the other facts.
 

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2008 map, I forget who was POTUS then and which states went which way in the election that year, but it's a map again with the usual suspects.


 

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Nope I am blaming their supporters who have almost 0 clue what it is that their party has supported over the years.

I see a few options for the party supporters.

1) Reject what previous R's have done and say that those people Reagan and the like were all wrong.

2) Embrace that they were in favor of what you all now consider socialism and gov't giveaways. And take it to the American people that it was your ideas and policies that have made it so you have a cell phone and child tax credit and don't pay any tax.

 

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I will let them know at the Valley Forge Patriots Tea Party Christmas Party on December 1 at King of Prussia fire hall.

 

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Try and stay on point here. I don't care who Obama appoints or what Dems do or have done. I am not a registered Dem, I don't financially support Dem candidates. So it's pointless to mention. The Reps needs to look internally and fix what is ailing them because right now they are rejecting so much of what made them an appealing alternative.
 
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