That you would use a .22-250 or .220 Swift or their equal on? I belong to another forum and they have been posting pictures of deer, mule deer, black bear, elk, and sheep and goats taken with the .22-250 and .220 Swift. Several guys have said they elk hunt frequently with those cartridges. I've hunted whitetail numerous times with the .22-250 but I'm not sure if I could talk myself into carrying one for black bear ever. But maybe bullet technology has surpassed even my prejudices and maybe it's time to see the hot .22's in a different light?