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I had a solid supply of Remington nitro pheasants in 2 3/4 and 3 in #6. I loved them. The gun recycled beautifully and never had a bird land alive. Just had to give birds a little distance not to blast them. I've heard they re made them in a different name, is that true? A friend also suggested the fiocchi golden pheasant ext in #5. It's 3" with a 1 5/8 load, does anyone use these?
 

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Chris,
I use both the Fiocchi Golden Pheasant #5 & #6 @ 1310 FPS and the Fiocchi High Velocity 7 1/2 @ 1300 for Pheasant hunting, IMO the best repetative patterning shells I can run thru my L.C. Smith double guns unless I load my own. For Grouse, Woodcock & Quail I use the Polywad Spred-R loads, along with the B&P 28 Gauge 7 1/2's. All are 2 3/4" shells.
Hardly reload at all any more, these shells are so good and Lion County delivers right to my door, even in the back woods of Potter County, Pa.
Pine Creek/Dave
 

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Released pheasants...1 1/8-6s in 12 gauge or 16 gauge.
Wild....same or up to 1 1/2-4s in a 12 or 1 1/4-4s in a 16, depending upon conditions.
5s are a swell compromise but 4s make a difference in oomph.

Make of shell means nothing though I like the Rem Sureshot box graphics.
One will lose zero birds because of the shell chosen unless some particular of the shell is at some extreme of measure.
All top shells with good shot perform just when fine pointed correctly and triggered at a proper distance...none hold trump....thinking otherwise is simply marketing at work or imagination driving confidence.
 

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A 3" load for pheasants sounds brutal. If you have a good load, maybe consider trying a different choke to see about opening the pattern up a bit if you tend to destroy birds. 3" loads on pheasants is most likely going to rip birds up horribly. If I was to hunt pheasants, and in a past life, I have, Id just shoot a moderate blast of 6 shot out of a modified choke or even improved cylinder. They don't fly that fast and get out of range in an instant.
 

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As crazy as it sounds I use a full choke and I still drop birds partially alive. The Nitros had the power to drop them with out tearing them up.
 

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3" shells and a full choke....you are not doing the birds in Pa or yourself a favor.
Consider looking up a skeet field, opening the choke and lightening the load.
 

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Winchester High Brass 6 shot 2 3/4" 12ga with an Improved Cylinder is all I ever used on Ringnecks
 

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Chris,
You don't need 3" shells or #4's to down Pheasants.
2 3/4 shells in #5 or #6 are fine, for pen raised pheasant
shooting behind a pointing dog, 7 1/2's are fine also.
Pine Creek/Dave
 

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I grew up when there were lots of wild birds plus some stockies and all my father, brother, and I ever used was 16 gauge high base #6, some store bought but most reloads. We all had ithaca 37s, mod. chokes.
 

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I tend to say shoot what your confident in. If you really liked those Rem Nitros, get the specs off an old box and find one or two comparable loadings and see how they pattern out of your gun (and choke combo). I tend to like smaller shot sizes and to paraphrase the Most Interesting Man in the World, "I don't always hunt pheasant but when I do, I prefer RST's 2.5", 1-1/16 ounce in 6s." but that does not help you with a semi.
 

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I use 1 1/8 ounce of 6's @ 1200 fps in my 12 gauge for what little pheasant hunting I do. I load 7/8 ounce of 7's and 7.5's @ about 1225 fps in my 20 ga. for grouse and woodcock. And finally 3/4 and 7/8 ounce of 7.5's @ about 1200-1225fps in my 28 ga. for grouse and woodcock.
These days I'm reloading all my hunting and target shells.
 

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My 2 cents:

As many stated, there really is no need for 3" loads for stocked PA birds. They general flush close and are pretty easy to put down. A 12 gauge with 2 3/4 6's is plenty.

That said if you question relates to wild rooster, my answer is different. I would challenge anyone that states 3" loads are overkill for wild roosters. If that was part of your question the Fiochi 3" loads are GREAT shells. I have also had good success with Kent Fast Leads (but like the Fiochi more). Keep in mind with late season wild roosters 40+ yard shoots are the norm and the birds are tough. Many guys drop to 4's for that reason.
 

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I can totally agree. Preserve hunting I pack a slingshot, but when birds are flushing when the dog gets close I want something to reach our and touch them. I don't think you need a 4 when you have a high powered 6. This being said I also use them on grouse pheasant and rabbit. It's an all around shell that I'm looking for.
 
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