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secret said:
my buddy just finished fletching up his victory arrows with 4" dura vanes will shoot them later this week. both of us will shoot them to see if that helps stabilize them.
I hope that works as I have an Excal Exocet 200 myself.
 

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240, you aren't shooting an Excalibur. Every bow is different. We have tested nearly every crossbow out there and they all like something different. There is no one size fits all in crossbow arrows. (especially after you cross the 325 f.p.s. barrier)
Your strykeforce will probably like the Easton Carbon Power with brass inserts and 2 inch Fusion vanes. But, if the Red Hots are working for you, I'd just stay with them. They are excellent arrows.
 

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Yes your right many bows many arrows . I just happen to find the right combination that works great for my set up . But I also will say what does not work also. You where getting alot of positive feed back on victory arrows thats great. But mine was'nt and started to hear some others having the same problems.Thats what I like about this site the information that is availible. I'm not trying to sale or indorse a product just stating what works for me.
 

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just got back from shooting the [refletched victory carbons] the duravanes didnt help much! groups at 30 yrds were 4". both of our bows shot the same. wide spaced groups. put my old gt lazer 2 in i could split arrows at that range. i believe these are good enough to hunt with but not a replacement for the gt lazer 2 [old] the weave must be different they just not all the same. i own 4 dozen of the old gts im so glad i bought them. yet to find anything that even close to thier design. even the new gt lazer2 with alittle more weight up front.
 

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Secret,
Since you have the old GT Laser II's...is there a way that you can tell me what the inside diameter is? And, the outside diameter? I would really love to have that information, if you have it available.
Also, since you are testing and helping too...if you P.M. me your name and address, I'll send some vanes your way if you tell me how they do.

240,
I think we have been misunderstanding or misreading each others posts. I am in no way endorsing the Victory for use in the Stryker. I am glad you told everyone that it won't work in that bow. The current Victory isn't spined right for use in that bow and I surely don't want to get anyone hurt.

I guess that is why I haven't shared my testing results on an open forum, until now. We tested the Victory since July and had great results with it in the Tornado and most of the other Parkers we tested it in. That is the only bow we have finalized testing in at this point. (and they work awesome!) We haven't tested them in the new Cyclone, so I wouldn't reccommend them in that bow at this point. I will be testing them as soon as I get my hands on a Cyclone though.
 

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I know you were not indorsing them for the strykeforce but victory claims the arrows I bought are for a 200-lb draw bow . Mine is 190-lb just thought they would have performed better then they did, maybe they should have said bows under 350 fps.live and learn
 

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i need a good set of micrometers, my friend is a machinist and i will have him measure them i/d o/d wall thickness. i still think when they were made in usa the spine was highter than they thought! when they realized it they cut back the wall thickness and made the shafts smaller...almost 1 gpi i solved this problem with 20gr more weight upfront on the new ones almost shoot the same but they drift more in crosswinds. thats why i wanted to try the new ones even though there 2 times the weight .....they may arc more but the spine would make them accurate plus the Ke would be greater. back when i shot compounds we always overspined arrows with great success. even when i shot league for years .... the 10x was easier to maintain with overspined arrows. i cant see why it would any different with crossbows.
 

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I know for us, it seemed like the 320 f.p.s. barrier was a magical turning point. It seemed that once we crossed that speed, everything we thought we knew about arrow flight...suddenly changed and the rules didn't apply.

It also seems to me that, as in 240's case once the 350-360 f.p.s. barrier is crossed there are another set of rules. I know it took alot of trial and error for us to get things going over 350 f.p.s. Most guys are just using a heavy arrow to slow things down to that speed rather than deal with the problems associated with speed over 350 f.p.s.
 

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Unfortunately for me, I only have 6 of the old GT2 USA arrows. I wish now I would have bought more a few years ago
They were great arrows. It still baffles me to this day why GT went to Mexico and changed the arrows too
 
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