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Well, now that I bit the bullet and bought a new truck, I need to get it outfitted with a cap. I've been doing some shopping and I think I'm down to a choice between Leer and A.R.E. I'm also still deciding between the base models and the upscale models with the frameless side windows and the frameless rear hatch door. I generally don't worry much about the fiberglass, but most of the issues I've had with my caps were related to the hardware (mostly the gas props and the handles and locks.) Any thoughts? Have any of you guys looked at or owned Ranch brand caps? Any others worth a look?
 

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I just went through all of this myself. I ended up with an ARE, got it on 12/23. I just went with the base model (V-Series?) as that was plenty expensive enough and then added on the accessories I wanted (tower series Yakima roof rack, side windoors, sliding / tilt in front window, fishing rod holder).

Just for that I was creeping up on $2k! Caps are crazy expensive! I've always had one but tried living without one for about a month or so and just hated it. I couldn't leave stuff in the bed, when I did it got wet or worried about it getting stolen.

I've had 2 Leers in the past, the ARE seems to be just as well built and was a bit cheaper than the Leer.
 

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Just bought a Leer for my Toyota Tacoma. It's functional but I didn't think the workmanship and quality equaled the price I had to pay for it. I don't know if I would buy another Leer.
 

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007Mike said:
Just bought a Leer for my Toyota Tacoma. It's functional but I didn't think the workmanship and quality equaled the price I had to pay for it. I don't know if I would buy another Leer.
Mike, which model did you buy?
 

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I am in the same position too. Ordered a new f150. my last truck had a Pace Edwards/jackrabbit roll top. it was the best of both worlds as I needed an open bed a lot. Drawback was that bad weather trips needed to have everything fit under the roll top.
I think I am going to go a different direction this time and get a ARE with side win-doors and carpet lined. It seems the difference in series is the construction of the window frames and hardware. website doesn't mention shell differences. Is anyone aware of any shell differences?Going to a local shop tomorrow. My buddy has an ARE and the only problem he had was after 7 years the piano hinge on the back window started to break. I think this was from pulling down on one side to close it rather than the middle. He was able to get anew hinge put on. His brother has a Leer with frame less glass and my problem with that one was the back window did not raise up enough, the edge was at forehead height for me . Got whacked a few times. Im 6' and he is 6'4 so it's at his eye level. That alone would be a deal killer.
 

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I've got a Leer 100XR on my F150, had it for 5 years now. I had to have a side window replaced due to leaking right after installation. Then I had to have it repainted within the first year and there are spots along the bottom that need paint now. I also replaced the window screen, brake light, and rear struts about 6 months ago. It never was completely water tight and I've always had small puddles and dampness after rain. For what I paid, I've been disappointed. I would probably try the A.R.E. if I were to get another truck soon. I don't know if they are any better; but at least it would be something different. I never heard of Ranch.
 

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WaldJager, I believe the only differences are as you stated and at most the contour of the shell. Like the higher end models may blend with the truck better / be less boxy. I don't care about that and if it wasn't raining I'd go take a pic of my rig for you. Regardless, I think the shells are all made of the same material / process, just using a different form.

As for the Leers, I had my last truck for 11+ years. I bought it new in 2004 and immediately put a Leer 100XR (I think) on it. Regardless, it had frame-less glass. The only trouble I had was some leaking around the rear window. Those struts are a wear and tear item, so after so much use they need replaced. They're pretty cheap at the auto parts stores and take about 2 minutes to swap out. I think I put 2 sets on my old truck?

Anyways, I'm 6'1" and never had any trouble hitting my head. My guess is the struts just needed replaced.

I found that when all was said and done, depending on what / if you get any options, they will work out to be near the same price. Priced out with my options, and the available coupons (Look at leer.com and ARE.com, as they both have coupons / deals!!) I came out a couple hundred cheaper going with ARE.
 

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I've got a Leer 100XR on my F150, had it for 5 years now. I had to have a side window replaced due to leaking right after installation. Then I had to have it repainted within the first year and there are spots along the bottom that need paint now. I also replaced the window screen, brake light, and rear struts about 6 months ago. It never was completely water tight and I've always had small puddles and dampness after rain. For what I paid, I've been disappointed. I would probably try the A.R.E. if I were to get another truck soon. I don't know if they are any better; but at least it would be something different. I never heard of Ranch.
Thanks for the info Greg. I think your info is steering me away from Leer.
 

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WaldJager, I believe the only differences are as you stated and at most the contour of the shell. Like the higher end models may blend with the truck better / be less boxy. I don't care about that and if it wasn't raining I'd go take a pic of my rig for you. Regardless, I think the shells are all made of the same material / process, just using a different form.

As for the Leers, I had my last truck for 11+ years. I bought it new in 2004 and immediately put a Leer 100XR (I think) on it. Regardless, it had frame-less glass. The only trouble I had was some leaking around the rear window. Those struts are a wear and tear item, so after so much use they need replaced. They're pretty cheap at the auto parts stores and take about 2 minutes to swap out. I think I put 2 sets on my old truck?

Anyways, I'm 6'1" and never had any trouble hitting my head. My guess is the struts just needed replaced.

I found that when all was said and done, depending on what / if you get any options, they will work out to be near the same price. Priced out with my options, and the available coupons (Look at leer.com and ARE.com, as they both have coupons / deals!!) I came out a couple hundred cheaper going with ARE.
Buddies brothers cap was new 2 years ago. Back window did not open must past horizontal, Not a strut issue. All others Ive had or seen went way up. This was a poor design or incorrectly installed struts
 

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007Mike said:
Just bought a Leer for my Toyota Tacoma. It's functional but I didn't think the workmanship and quality equaled the price I had to pay for it. I don't know if I would buy another Leer.
I got a leer as well for my tacoma and while it works I may look at someone different next time as well. Plus make sure you ask how high the rear door opens. On my tacoma the frameless glass hatch opens to parallel so I hit my head on it every time I open the door. I am not impressed and there wasn't anything I or they could do about it. Lesson learned. I figured all of the caps would open beyond parallel. Plus I have had it back 5 times because it leaks a little when it rains. They would reseal and it would be good for 6 months then it would leak again. I gave up and just live with it now.
 

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Wald Jager said:
Adam said:
WaldJager, I believe the only differences are as you stated and at most the contour of the shell. Like the higher end models may blend with the truck better / be less boxy. I don't care about that and if it wasn't raining I'd go take a pic of my rig for you. Regardless, I think the shells are all made of the same material / process, just using a different form.

As for the Leers, I had my last truck for 11+ years. I bought it new in 2004 and immediately put a Leer 100XR (I think) on it. Regardless, it had frame-less glass. The only trouble I had was some leaking around the rear window. Those struts are a wear and tear item, so after so much use they need replaced. They're pretty cheap at the auto parts stores and take about 2 minutes to swap out. I think I put 2 sets on my old truck?

Anyways, I'm 6'1" and never had any trouble hitting my head. My guess is the struts just needed replaced.

I found that when all was said and done, depending on what / if you get any options, they will work out to be near the same price. Priced out with my options, and the available coupons (Look at leer.com and ARE.com, as they both have coupons / deals!!) I came out a couple hundred cheaper going with ARE.
Buddies brothers cap was new 2 years ago. Back window did not open must past horizontal, Not a strut issue. All others Ive had or seen went way up. This was a poor design or incorrectly installed struts
Well that's no good!
 

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007Mike said:
Just bought a Leer for my Toyota Tacoma. It's functional but I didn't think the workmanship and quality equaled the price I had to pay for it. I don't know if I would buy another Leer.
I got a leer as well for my tacoma and while it works I may look at someone different next time as well. Plus make sure you ask how high the rear door opens. On my tacoma the frameless glass hatch opens to parallel so I hit my head on it every time I open the door. I am not impressed and there wasn't anything I or they could do about it. Lesson learned. I figured all of the caps would open beyond parallel. Plus I have had it back 5 times because it leaks a little when it rains. They would reseal and it would be good for 6 months then it would leak again. I gave up and just live with it now.
That's the same as I was referring to in my last post. It was a frameless window so why wouldn't it be able to raise higher?
 

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Thanks for the info Greg. I think your info is steering me away from Leer.
Would I buy another Leer?

Like Greg, I put a Leer XL on my '05 Dakota w/the frameless rear window, push button latches. I've had to reattach the drip edge twice and the weather seal for the swing out side Window once. I forget how many times I had to readjust the cables and latches. Oh and I also had to replace the 3rd LED brake light but being a consumable part it wasn't big deal, 'bout 40 bucks.

The left side lift cylinder/bracket fix is another story.


One of my buddies bought a '15 chevy last September w/Leer cap. Its been back to the shop twice for a side window leak and it still leaks!

In contrast I put a Jason on my '94 Dakota with zero issues in the ten years I had it.

Would I buy another Leer? What do you think?

Bill
 

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I have a leer on my tacoma for the past 7 years without a problem and my vehicle sits outside everyday.
 

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I put a Leer 100R on a 1997 F-250 when I bought it. Had the truck 18 years and never a problem. When I bought my 2015 F-250 I went with the same model.
 

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It seems like you guys who have Leers and like them have the base model (100R) and the 100XL's are not performing so well. For about $200 less for the A.R.E. V-series vs. the Leer 100R series, I'm leaning toward the A.R.E.
 

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I have had the Leer 100XL on my Ford F-150 for 3 years and haven't had any problems with it. I had several ARE caps previously on other trucks that I owned.

I added several options on the cap that I especially like, including a sliding, removable window, a folding clothes rack, an electric locking hatch door that operates with my trucks key fob, 12volt receptacles, and the Thule tracks (I put my own Yakima rack on the tracks that I already had.). It is also fully carpeted inside, which may also have been an option.

John
 
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