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I was hoping to learn more about air and PCP rifles from folks on here that have them and will go into detail. What I have discovered from reviews on YouTube is you truly do get what you pay for. The rifles that will shoot beyond a 25 yard mark as compared to 50 ,75 and 100 yard shooters is money. Walmart and box stores rifles are okay for the back yard, but hunting ? I wouldn't spend the money or carry one for squirrel hunting. But, than again, a thousand dollar PCP (starter) and the charging equipment needed? I am interested in the higher end PCP .22 cal., Air Force come to mind as a start. (Now, the opinions here are my own and as of yet I don't own any air rifles.) This idea may die and I'll just get another good .22 rim fire bolt action. So, lets hear about them.
 

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There really is a huge difference between the box store air rifles and the serious PCP rifles designed for hunting. I have the FX Verminator Extreme in .22 caliber. The match grade trigger is something to behold. I thought I would use mine more than I did. Shot a few squirrels with it. I would certainly get a hand charging pump if you are in the market for a PCP rifle. I had to take mine to the local scuba store to get the tanked recharged.

Since I haven't used mine in over a year, I would consider selling it if this is something you are interested in. $2300 new. I would sell it for $1000. It has only two tanks of air through it.
 

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Thank you, but this is what I'm finding out, these get used for a short time than put on the rack. What happens? What causes the thrill go die? I more inclined to get a .22 bolt action. Setting my sights for a Ruger Rimfire Precision 22. I have a NW .223 that I'm going to unload to help with the cash for one or trade on used one.
 

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Not really sure why I havent used it more. It is a hoot to shoot and hunt with. For me, I believe the timing of the seasons has a lot to do with me not using mine that much. If archery season is open, I am basically archery hunting, so I don't find the time for small game.
 

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I wouldn't advise getting too expensive of a air rifle to start out with. If you end up not using it much it is just wasted money. There are a number of entry level pcp rifles that just came out that will make great hunting rifles. They wont have great triggers or be able to shoot as far but will still be very capable. I have a Benjamin discovery that I bought used. On a still day I have shot 1 inch groups at 50 yards. I limit myself when hunting squirrels but if I'm going after sparrows or starlings no shot is too far. I have killed many of these birds at 70+ yards. Check out the Umerax Gauntlet $300 for a very capable gun.
 

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Several years back a friend of mine purchased a very quiet 22-cal pump a million times to get projectile up to speed. I looked at the ballistics of the 22 air rifle vs a 22 sub-sonic with a suppressor. The 22 sub-sonic far outperformed the air rifle. That was the year I purchased my 22 suppressor. It works very well and I use it more than I thought. I have a Buckmark pistol that I had the barrel threaded, along with a Browning bolt 22 rifle.

FWIW
 

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I would say .22lr bolt...but there are some great quality and precision "pellet" guns out there...

...my suppressed .22 rim fire bolt is very accurate to 50 yards shooting 710 fps ammo..literally 1 hole accurate at 30. Sounds like a dry fire and bullet hits target..unbelievable. There are 2 other Sub-sonic(around 850 and 910 fps) offerings for TRUE silence. Anything over 1000 gives a muffled crack suppressed...not as quiet as the PCPs..22 rim fire is a lot less bulky if carrying may be issue
 

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I would say .22lr bolt...but there are some great quality and precision "pellet" guns out there...

...my suppressed .22 bolt is very accurate to 50 yards shooting 710 fps ammo..literally 1 hole accurate at 30. Sounds like a dry fire and bullet hits target..unbelievable. There are 2 other Sub-sonic(around 850 and 910 fps) offerings for TRUE silence. Anything over 1000 gives a muffled crack suppressed...not as quiet as the PCPs..22 is a lot less bulky if carrying may be issue
Ok......but what gr. weight pellet are you shooting? Gr. wt and velocity = energy. And energy is what is lethal.
 

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Unless it’s a pistol ammo most subsonic 22 ammo I’ve seen has been pretty heavy for caliber. Not counting the calibri or CBs. Think 45-60 grains.


On the topic of PCPs the down side of a cheaper gun if you do like them you’ll inevitably be looking for an upgrade. The Discovery and Marauder can be modded though. The charging equipment is mostly universal. I’d not hand pump anything except a Discovery and a P-Rod maybe. If your just plinking there are ways to get more shots across a larger range of PSI but you then repump more.
 
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