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As I predicted ten years ago and have been trying to rally gun owners to mobilize and cut off before it happened to no avail. The Joyce Foundation started this crap eight years ago and before that it was HCI who launched the first anti-gun campaign going after bullets & ammo ... now it's here and more than likely going to happen given the current lot of anti-American national-socialists in elected offices.


Radical Group Launches Complete Lead Bullet Ban Campaign

Friday, July 23, 2010

As announced in a recent fundraising letter to its members, the Center for Biological Diversity (CBD) will launch a “once-in-a-lifetime campaign” this summer to “ban all lead bullets everywhere in the United States.” Make no mistake, hunters and shooters are in the crosshairs of this extremist group.

With regard to issues pertaining to wildlife and the environment, the NRA focuses on science when formulating its decisions and policies, not politics and emotion. We would all be better off if CBD did the same. With no scientific justification for a lead ban, CBD’s campaign is a deceptive attack on hunting. Radical environmental groups like the CBD have already contributed to declining hunter numbers by helping to eliminate access to vast public hunting lands. A complete lead ban would exacerbate this decline by mandating expensive non-traditional ammunition. Hunting should not be an activity limited to the wealthy; every hunter is essential to sustaining our great American sporting heritage.

Similarly, the recreational shooting that allows gun owners to hone skills and exercise their Second Amendment rights would be dramatically curtailed due to cost increases. The boxes of .22 long rifle, 9mm and .30-06 that families have shot for generations during trips to the range, the back 40 or at public shooting areas will be priced beyond reach for most.

Hunters and gun owners have been the greatest contributors to conservation for nearly a century. In addition to volunteer efforts to improve habitat, billions of dollars dedicated to habitat and wildlife restoration projects have been generated through the payment of hunting license fees and excise taxes on firearms, ammunition and other hunting equipment. At a time when jobs are badly needed, hunting generates billions of dollars of economic activity and more than one million jobs in the United States. To attack hunters and gun owners in this deceptive manner will be detrimental to the economy and the wildlife CBD claims to seek to help.

The Environmental Protection Agency has adopted lead management practices that “have been proven to effectively reduce lead contamination” at shooting ranges and has never called for restrictions on the use of lead ammunition. Some non-traditional ammunition has even been found to raise new concerns. If the campaign to ban traditional ammunition is successful, rest assured that the radical environmentalists will soon initiate a plan to ban the “next best thing.”

In its over-the-top fundraising plea to its members, CBD states, “The NRA will spend $100 for every dollar we spend. It will pull out all the stops against us.” What the elitists in the CBD do not understand is that NRA’s power comes from its millions of members who will take action to preserve the use of traditional ammunition for current and future generations. Indeed, we will pull out all of the stops because this fight is too important to lose.

Please be sure to educate your friends, family, fellow sportsmen and elected officials about these types of attacks and the radical groups behind them.

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=5982
 

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....look at the money the PGC spends on (lead)cleanup of public ranges....that is why shotguns are prohibited. As far as private club with trap/skeet shooting, Some one on here could give us a cost of clean-up.
 

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I think lead is a natural occurring element from the earth
I may be wrong but I think I read that somewhere
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....look at the money the PGC spends on (lead)cleanup of public ranges....that is why shotguns are prohibited. As far as private club with trap/skeet shooting, Some one on here could give us a cost of clean-up.
In many of the PGC ranges that is not why there are no shotguns allowed... the range at Prince Gallitzen state park SGL 108 i believe is not set up to safely handle shotguns... and the range at SGL 176 Scotia has a shotgun range on it that is used almost daily.
 

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Is it "No Shot-Guns" or single projectile ammunition only? In which, slugs are OK.
Unlawful to:
3) Discharge armor-piercing, incendiary, explosive, tracer or multiple-projectile ammunition.
 

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SGL 109 range.......

I should have been more specific.......lead shot.
 

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Don't know if it still happens but a lot of the trap shooting clubs used to get people in to clean up the lead and the club would get paid for it. Didn't cost them a cent.
 

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Our M`loader club will celebrate its 35th year. It would be virtually impossible to clean up all the Lead that has been sent downrange. Legislate what they want and let the DoDo hit the Fan. I don`t believe the takeover will be as easy as the BoBo people anticipate.....
 

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I think the no shotgun rules at PGC ranges have more to do with clay bird debris and garbage left behind by careless shooters than the lead alone from shotgun shells. You can walk on the debris at most skeet ranges and not touch the ground. From empty hulls left behind, to empty skeet boxes piling up near the trash cans, to the multitude of broken skeets, its just a huge mess that they want to avoid I guess.
 

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So when do you think lead sinkers will be on the chopping block. I could easily see California saying the lead is making all the fish sick. We can't have lost sinkers being in the ocean and lakes.
 

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john hit the point i was going to....lead cleanup probably pays for itself...


i agree, it wont be long till you cant even buy a bullet with lead in it....

look at the major bullet manufacturers...all producing lead free ammo...they know its coming...

got 2 options....stockpile lead bullets and hope we can still use what we have (or use them and hope you dont get caught) or go with the flow and shoot the new lead free jobs....

i dont think its IF its coming..its more likely WHEN....

better buy bigger guns
them lead free jobs weigh less than normal....and/or are longer due to not having the same density as lead....
 

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Ron pa said:
Our M`loader club will celebrate its 35th year. It would be virtually impossible to clean up all the Lead that has been sent downrange. Legislate what they want and let the DoDo hit the Fan. I don`t believe the takeover will be as easy as the BoBo people anticipate.....
I don't know why you think it wouldn't be easy.
You sound like my buddies in CA who said about the same thing 2 years before they went lead-free.
 

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john hit the point i was going to....lead cleanup probably pays for itself...


i agree, it wont be long till you cant even buy a bullet with lead in it....

look at the major bullet manufacturers...all producing lead free ammo...they know its coming...

got 2 options....stockpile lead bullets and hope we can still use what we have (or use them and hope you dont get caught) or go with the flow and shoot the new lead free jobs....

i dont think its IF its coming..its more likely WHEN....

better buy bigger guns
them lead free jobs weigh less than normal....and/or are longer due to not having the same density as lead....
What about the hi density shot such as hevishot. If they startted casting bullets from the stuff, you'd actually be getting a significantly heavier payload in a shorter bullet, ie. a .30 cal 220 gr bullet could be the same length as a 165gr, etc. I think the non-toxic stuff actually has ballistic potential. Most of the hevi shot style loads vary from 10%- 30% heavier than lead per volume.
 

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Hogden,
Our Range consist of 25,50 and 75 yd Targets. Possible to clean it up. But, we have a Mountain Man and Trailwalk course that winds through at least 300 yds. of open and wooded terrain. They consist of close and long shots.35 years of lead flying,Ain`t no way to recover the lead from there....Yes, they are coming in the back door after our guns.The cost of NEW and GREEN ammunition will probably cause the casual shooter to just pack it in.Unlike the old Cowboy Movie days, the bad guys are winning....
 

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Cost of the ammo won't chase them away.
The performance of available "green" ammo most likely will.
I been down this road already....conventional twist rates of standard calibers are not too freindly to fodder that isn't dimensionally the same cuz of weight.
 
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