The 2022 - 2023 Penguins Thread
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A lot of truth here.
But Sullivan refuses to adjust the style to the lineup he has. He’s trying to play his 2016-2017 speed game with a much older and slower roster. It’s almost as thought there is a power struggle between Sully and Hextall, and Rutherford before him. Management has wanted to build a roster that has more size and grit, they acquire players that fit the mold, Sully refuses to play them or puts them in positions to fail, they’re shipped out and the process repeats itself…
And when I talk about “toughness”, I’m not talking about a lineup goons who can’t play hockey. I’m talking about agitators and players who hit hard and are generally a pain to play every night. Who on the current roster fits that mold? Most of us would like for the league to be all about skill and “playing the right way”, but it’s not and the Pens refuse to acknowledge that.
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don't look now but the sharks are quietly tanking to get the best lottery odds in the up coming draft Connor Bedard is going to be a huge deal for who ever gets him he is going to rank right up there with Gretzky Lemeiux Ovechkin and McDavid a force to be recon with
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Ok, game time- how many goals will the Pens give up to an inferior team
Tie breaker- how many goals will they be down by the end of the second period?
Triple tie breaker- How many seconds left on the clock at the end of the first period when they give up a goal?
Tie breaker- how many goals will they be down by the end of the second period?
Triple tie breaker- How many seconds left on the clock at the end of the first period when they give up a goal?
Another game in which the goaltending will be blamed as the team lets odd man rush after odd man rush, isn’t covering anyone, turning the puck over with regularity.
And once again, Hextall has assembled a super old team that’s slow and undersized as well. What a monumental achievement in a league that is getting bigger and faster.
And once again, Hextall has assembled a super old team that’s slow and undersized as well. What a monumental achievement in a league that is getting bigger and faster.
That's like saying they smell better than 💩
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I dont compare the fortunes of the Penguins to that of the Flyers. I hold our local hockey team to the much higher standard which they have earned over the years. The eastern PA team cannot carry the Penguins dirty laundry historically. That said, the Pens need to be much better and I feel that Hextall is squandering the little chance that the big three have of winning another cup. He is hastening the Pens descent into stinkieness.
also what the heck is Brian Burke being paid for? He's supposed to be some great hockey guru?
Again, what can be said? Team is an absolute joke. They absolutely CANNOT play a full 60 minutes of quality hockey, and blow leads like nobody’s business.
And of course, all the blame will be deflected on Jarry, or goaltending in general, but what do you expect? For about 50 minutes if this game, the Pens dictated play and insulated Jarry for the most part. But ONCE AGAIN, when push came to shove (LITERALLY), this group of soft weaklings could not clear Anders Lee or Brock Nelson from the crease. It’s been an ongoing issue for YEARS and still nothing has changed. Meanwhile, we watch Sid get ragdolled twice on the same shift by Matt Martin at the other end…
They have a relatively “easy” schedule for the rest of the way (after going through the Rangers meat grinder 3 times in the next week), and will likely stumble into the playoffs, but they will get absolutely embarrassed once they do. Enough to change the direction from management? Not likely. They’ll just reload with more aging Smurfs for next year.
Again, I’m sure most of us would like to see a league in which skill takes precedence over the obstruction and goonery, but that ain’t happening. The Pens can keep thinking that “playing the right way” will catch on and if they simply play nice, opposing teams will not get physical with them, and they will continue to lose. The top contenders in the league don’t have rosters full of goons, BUT they all have at least a few guys that can dish out punishment and/or agitate. And they can actually play hockey as well. Boston has Marchand as there be agitator, plus guys like Fredric that can ragdoll people and drop the gloves. Tampa has Perry in the agitator role and guys like Hedman to bring the physicality. The Islanders have big bodies like Lee and Nelson and Matt Martin lays the wood. The Rangers have really beefed up and still have Trouba employed, who knocked Crosby out last year in the playoffs. And on and on.
Who do the Pens have to play any of those roles? These roles become extra important come playoff time…
But of course, Jarry will take all the flack a s the glaring weaknesses of this team will continue to be ignored. He and DeSmith certainly aren’t Vasi or Shesterkin level, but them playing behind this joke of a defense is like having a quality QB behind a terrible offensive line. If it’s not odd man rush after odd man rush coming at them every night, it’s the opposition camping out on the crease while Letang and Dumo and crew wave their sticks around aimlessly.
And of course, all the blame will be deflected on Jarry, or goaltending in general, but what do you expect? For about 50 minutes if this game, the Pens dictated play and insulated Jarry for the most part. But ONCE AGAIN, when push came to shove (LITERALLY), this group of soft weaklings could not clear Anders Lee or Brock Nelson from the crease. It’s been an ongoing issue for YEARS and still nothing has changed. Meanwhile, we watch Sid get ragdolled twice on the same shift by Matt Martin at the other end…
They have a relatively “easy” schedule for the rest of the way (after going through the Rangers meat grinder 3 times in the next week), and will likely stumble into the playoffs, but they will get absolutely embarrassed once they do. Enough to change the direction from management? Not likely. They’ll just reload with more aging Smurfs for next year.
Again, I’m sure most of us would like to see a league in which skill takes precedence over the obstruction and goonery, but that ain’t happening. The Pens can keep thinking that “playing the right way” will catch on and if they simply play nice, opposing teams will not get physical with them, and they will continue to lose. The top contenders in the league don’t have rosters full of goons, BUT they all have at least a few guys that can dish out punishment and/or agitate. And they can actually play hockey as well. Boston has Marchand as there be agitator, plus guys like Fredric that can ragdoll people and drop the gloves. Tampa has Perry in the agitator role and guys like Hedman to bring the physicality. The Islanders have big bodies like Lee and Nelson and Matt Martin lays the wood. The Rangers have really beefed up and still have Trouba employed, who knocked Crosby out last year in the playoffs. And on and on.
Who do the Pens have to play any of those roles? These roles become extra important come playoff time…
But of course, Jarry will take all the flack a s the glaring weaknesses of this team will continue to be ignored. He and DeSmith certainly aren’t Vasi or Shesterkin level, but them playing behind this joke of a defense is like having a quality QB behind a terrible offensive line. If it’s not odd man rush after odd man rush coming at them every night, it’s the opposition camping out on the crease while Letang and Dumo and crew wave their sticks around aimlessly.
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