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So...………..since I had to work every day of the general firearms season...……..my daughter got ripped off and did not get to hunt at all, either.

So, I said to her a week ago...….. "think you'd wanna try a flintlock ?" She said "Uh huh !!!" so I found a TC White Mountain Carbine flinter and paid way too much for it. But a daddy's gotta do what a daddy's gotta do...……….


I could tell in the pics online,that there was something up with the trigger. It was WAAAAAY too far forward in the trigger guard. So the brown truck swings by yesterday and drops the gun off. The trigger is flopping around in the guard...…. Take the lock off and the trigger connector is not in the proper position in the lock. 60 second fix.


Try to pull the hammer back and I almost gotta put two hands on the hammer and both feet on the butt pad !!!!! Ain't NO WAY a 14 year old girl is gonna cock that hammer with one thumb. And the trigger pull...………………. !!! NO LESS than 10 lbs !!!! Probably more ……….


Anyone else ever run across a TC (or Lyman...…...same exact lock) that was this ignorant ???
 

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first thing I would check would be clearance of all the moving parts with the wood inside.

It ain't that.


With the lock out and running it by hand...……….it's the absolute WORST that I (and my uncle who build his own locks and guns) have ever seen !!! The hammer spring is like it came out from under a Chevy Suburban !!! There's some polishing and spring work in the very, VERY near future for the lock...….
 

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Weird thing is...………..uncle just did a little cleaning up of a Lyman gun for a Dutchman about a month ago. The Lyman uses the SAME EXACT lock as the TC. He said the Lyman trigger was good...……..right around 3 lbs
 

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first thing I would check would be clearance of all the moving parts with the wood inside.

Well...………..you were in the right church !!! Just the wrong pew...……. :wink2:


I did some online research late last night and came up with a couple discussions that were semi-related to my predicament with this gun. I e-mailed the links to uncle.


He got to looking and found that the trigger connector arm that goes into the notch in the trigger was binding on the bottom corner of the notch. He fetched his Dremel after it and, with clearance, the trigger breaks at 4 pounds, albeit with a good bit of creep. Not sure what, if anything, can be done with the creep. But, at least, we have a trigger my daughter can pull. We can work with 4 pounds with creep.
 

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Id like to find a White Mountain Carbine myself....they sound pretty neat..
Percussion WMC's are a dime a dozen. Flinters are hard to come by...………….and hard to pay for if you get 'em on an online auction site...………

My late night researching last night, turned up that the WMC's came with at least 3 different twist rates...…….. 20, 28 and 38. I plan to load Hornady PA Conicals in it. I'm hoping if this is a 20 or a 28 twist gun, it won't be too fast for the Conical.
 

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Id like to find a White Mountain Carbine myself....they sound pretty neat..
Percussion WMC's are a dime a dozen. Flinters are hard to come by...………….and hard to pay for if you get 'em on an online auction site...………

My late night researching last night, turned up that the WMC's came with at least 3 different twist rates...…….. 20, 28 and 38. I plan to load Hornady PA Conicals in it. I'm hoping if this is a 20 or a 28 twist gun, it won't be too fast for the Conical.
Definetly would be flint.....been checkin for a while...always a day late. Hate runnin from shop to shop tryin to find one...maybe when i was younger..:)
 

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I have one I picked up last year from an older friend who was downsizing. Like new condition, I think I gave $200 for it.. My hammer is a bit on the stiff side, but not all that bad. Trigger is sloppy but fairly light, better than my Renegade without setting the set trigger. Haven't messed around with a lot of loads but it shoots the Hornady 385gr Great Plains bullet over 80 grains of 2F BP within two inches at 50 yards; good enough for my purposes.
 

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Ummm, check the twist so You know? >:) :wink2:

Yeah...…………. When I posted that, the gun wasn't in my possession. I also mis-typed. I wanted to type "I hope this gun is NOT a 20 or 28 twist gun".

Well...………..sorry 'bout my crappy luck. Of all things...……..it's a 20 twist gun. Wont know til I try if it'll shoot the Hornady Conicals. My gut feeling is no. But I believe standard twist for .44 and .45 cal revolvers is 1:16 and many handgun bullets are of a similar profile and B.C. as the Conicals, so...…..

I was figuring to have a backup plan if the Conicals were a no go. I didn't know what that plan was til I was strolling through Wally-by-Golly this evening and there...…….on clearance, even...……….were boxes of 350 grain, .50 cal T/C Maxi Hunter bullets. Grabbed me up a couple boxes of them and viola !!! Backup plan !!!! I feel fairly certain those will shoot if the Hornadys won't.
 
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