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Sooo, I got this new T/C Impact with Speed Breech,, kinda like the CVA breech. I took it out sighted in and it was shooting great. Took it home and went to screw out the breech to clean it and it was seized up. Before I went to the range to shoot it I put Permatex anti seize lube on the breech.
Well long story short I called T/C Arms and got some smart mouth woman that is going to send a return shipping label and I'll get it in 7 to 10 days and it's going to be 6 to 8 weeks before they look at it and I get it back. :sad:
 

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Sooo, I got this new T/C Impact with Speed Breech,, kinda like the CVA breech. I took it out sighted in and it was shooting great. Took it home and went to screw out the breech to clean it and it was seized up. Before I went to the range to shoot it I put Permatex anti seize lube on the breech.
Well long story short I called T/C Arms and got some smart mouth woman that is going to send a return shipping label and I'll get it in 7 to 10 days and it's going to be 6 to 8 weeks before they look at it and I get it back.
So you seized a breach. Probably from poor lubrication and entirely your fault. And T/C customer service are smart mouth because they are going to pay the freight to them and back to you because of your error. What's wrong with this picture?
 

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So you seized a breach. Probably from poor lubrication and entirely your fault. And T/C customer service are smart mouth because they are going to pay the freight to them and back to you because of your error. What's wrong with this picture?
I guess you missed the sentence where I said I put Permatex anti seize on the breech plug before I shot the rifle. And you have no idea what the conversation was with that smart mouth woman I had to deal with.

In fact what you are implying now reminds me of her maybe you better pull you skirt up before you get in trouble. :plain:
 

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So you seized a breach. Probably from poor lubrication and entirely your fault. And T/C customer service are smart mouth because they are going to pay the freight to them and back to you because of your error. What's wrong with this picture?
I guess you missed the sentence where I said I put Permatex anti seize on the breech plug before I shot the rifle. And you have no idea what the conversation was with that smart mouth woman I had to deal with.

In fact what you are implying now reminds me of her maybe you better pull you skirt up before you get in trouble.
No, I didn't miss the permatex sentence. Apparently you applied to much. to little or overtighted the breech plug. Bottom line is you did something wrong not T/C.

No comment on the rest of your post as it seems you got all butt hurt because of your error.
 

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No, I didn't miss the permatex sentence. Apparently you applied to much. to little or overtighted the breech plug. Bottom line is you did something wrong not T/C.

No comment on the rest of your post as it seems you got all butt hurt because of your error.
Naw not but hurt been dealing with people like you and that woman at t/c a long time now and I probably know more about muzzle loaders than the 2 of you put together.
"Bottom line" I did nothing wrong to the breech and you don't know what your are talking about and it's going to take a long time to get it fixed. IMO that's poor customer service.
 

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.... Apparently you applied to much. to little or overtighted the breech plug....
If it's that much of a Goldie locks gun maybe T/C should do something.
 
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No, I didn't miss the permatex sentence. Apparently you applied to much. to little or overtighted the breech plug. Bottom line is you did something wrong not T/C.

No comment on the rest of your post as it seems you got all butt hurt because of your error.
Naw not but hurt been dealing with people like you and that woman at t/c a long time now and I probably know more about muzzle loaders than the 2 of you put together.
"Bottom line" I did nothing wrong to the breech and you don't know what your are talking about and it's going to take a long time to get it fixed. IMO that's poor customer service.
Breech plugs don't just freeze. If the breech plug ran freely when clean then it is not the firearm, it's operator error. Apparently you do not know as much as you would like to believe about muzzle loaders.
 

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Breech plugs don't just freeze. If the breech plug ran freely when clean then it is not the firearm, it's operator error. Apparently you do not know as much as you would like to believe about muzzle loaders.
I know enough that the breech plug was put it and properly lubed the way it was supposed to be and apparently you weren't here when I put the breech plug in so your talking about something you have not seen and making "assumptions" about something you know nothing about.>:)
 

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I have a T/C impact. It operates flawless. Before I bought the one I have, I looked at one at the dealer up the road. I asked to look at it. (brand new with factory tags just got it in few days ago before it went on shelf). He couldn't unlock the barrel pulling back the hood ears. I thought he doing something wrong? I asked to look at it. Wow to my surprise I couldn't open the barrel. I didn't want to purchase that firearm. He did get the action to break open using a rubber mallet tapping at it.


That firearm I had in my hands at the dealer has a defect & I wouldn't bet the farm now, I believe your T/C Impact has a defect. Something out of tolerance as I experienced with one with the hood ears to unlock the barrel. My .02 T/C not the same since S&W joined force's.


Good luck Waynzee.
 

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Without totally taking the rifle apart,, which I wasn't sure about, there is no way of getting a good grip on the breech plug.
Confused by this statement...

When you took it down for cleaning, you did remove the forearm and barrel from the action, right?

Should be plenty of access to the breech plug once the barrel is hinged off the receiver.

Edit: I see now the T/C has a pin you need to drift out vs the hinged action of other MLs. Still, looks pretty simple to get that barrel off to get after the breech plug with a spanner or wrench.
 

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Sooo, I got this new T/C Impact with Speed Breech,, kinda like the CVA breech. I took it out sighted in and it was shooting great. Took it home and went to screw out the breech to clean it and it was seized up. Before I went to the range to shoot it I put Permatex anti seize lube on the breech.
Well long story short I called T/C Arms and got some smart mouth woman that is going to send a return shipping label and I'll get it in 7 to 10 days and it's going to be 6 to 8 weeks before they look at it and I get it back. :sad:
I don't think the Impacts have a speed breech,or at least the one's from a year or two ago didn't.Even if you lube a breech plug properly,they can still try your patience if you put them in too tight.There's not a lot of room with a TC breech wrench if the gun has a scope on it.
 

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I have multiple ML's with threaded breech plugs. Savage MLII I use smokeless powder), CVA Kodiak, Traditions PA Pellet. I use anti seize each time I reinstall the breech plug. I always hand tightened the breech plugs and did not wrench tighten them. I sometimes have shot as much as 20 rounds before cleaning and have never had an issue removing the plugs.
If the plugs thread easily into the breech and are lubed there should not be an issue. A hot load or multiple hot loads can cause
over expansion. Also, alignment issues can cause galling of the threads.
 

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The only in-line I ever had breech plug issues with was an old CVA Optima Pro Magnum. And I blame the issues I experienced totally on the use of T/C’s lube. If I fired more than 5 shots without removing and cleaning the plug, it would take an impact wrench to remove.
Once I switched to CVA’s anti-seize or Permatex the issue went away.
The key to breech plugs, whether standard or quick type, is a liberal amount of good anti-seize and FINGER TIGHT ONLY.
I can run 100 shots through my Optima V2 (QRBP) and remove the breech plug with one finger and thumb.
 

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There is an O ring on the new T/C Impact with the Speed Breech and its hard to over tighten with your hand. I don't really know why the breech plug seized I did everything right. The first time I had the rifle out and went to take the breech plug out I had a hard time and had to use the supplied wrench they send with the rifle but it broke free after some effort. This time not so much. Anyway it's on its way back to T/C Arms service department and I should get it back sometime in mid August according to them.
 

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I had a hard time removing a breech plug when I used 777, but less so with Pyrodex . This was with CVA and Remington inlines.
 

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There is an O ring on the new T/C Impact with the Speed Breech and its hard to over tighten with your hand. I don't really know why the breech plug seized I did everything right. The first time I had the rifle out and went to take the breech plug out I had a hard time and had to use the supplied wrench they send with the rifle but it broke free after some effort. This time not so much. Anyway it's on its way back to T/C Arms service department and I should get it back sometime in mid August according to them.
I hope it was spotlessly clean (as much as is possible w/o removing the BP) prior to shipping it back...
Otherwise, I'd expect some degree of rust/corrosion/possibly pitting... Hopefully they determine it to be defective and replace at least the barrel and bp, if not the entire gun...
Worst case would be getting back the same whole gun with an "unstuck" breech plug and having to deal w/ the aftermath of 10+ weeks of chemical reaction eating away at the barrel and breech... :plain:
 

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I hope it was spotlessly clean (as much as is possible w/o removing the BP) prior to shipping it back...
Otherwise, I'd expect some degree of rust/corrosion/possibly pitting... Hopefully they determine it to be defective and replace at least the barrel and bp, if not the entire gun...
Worst case would be getting back the same whole gun with an "unstuck" breech plug and having to deal w/ the aftermath of 10+ weeks of chemical reaction eating away at the barrel and breech... :plain:
Yeah I cleaned it real good and oiled everything as I kind of expected some slacker to work on it.:wink2:
 

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Wayne, Having no experience with any inclines, I saw a guy at the range using a ratchet set to remove his breech plug. Would that work for you
 
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