Pattern is a function of the gun/choke/shell combo, not just the gun. I wouldn't say the 835 is the best patterning gun ever made. Any gun can be set up to throw a wicked pattern if youre willing to put the time and money into it. That being said, if you want the best chance at getting a good pattern right off the bat, by just grabbing a tukrey choke and screwing it in, and some turkey loads, the 835 is your best bet. I've got a Benelli SBE II that I've spent a great deal of time with at the patterning board, and it would put to shame many of the turkey gun patterns I've seen. My pattern at 60 looks better than a lot of guys patterns do at 40.(Note, I wouldn't shoot at a turkey that far, I just patterned it that far one day to see what it would do). I had an 835 that shot just a tad better, with much less work. I sold the 835, and kept the benelli. It just didn't seem right leaving an 1800 dollar gun at home to carry a 400 dollar one. If I wouldn't have won the 835, I would never have owned one. However, for what it was, it was a great turkey smasher!