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Guys. I shot a doe the other night and was reloading for a possible follow up shot and didn`t need it. Well, in the process of loading the 2nd maxi-ball it got stuck in the middle of the barrel. This has never happened before with my NEF Sidekick. I even came home and tried to push it home with the range rod-no go-she is really stick. Tried the ball, no go, she is really jammed in there and now my range rod is stuck in my barrel because I don`t want to unscrew it from the ball puller yet. I can`t find my old T/C discharger so I am in a pickle. The breach plug is basically frozen in the breach and no chance of getting it out if you have ever tied to use the stupid breach plug removal tool they gave you with these rifles, so basically I shoot it like a non-removable breach plug gun.Is there any kind of fluid I can try and loosen up the maxi-ball from the sides of the rifling or something else? What is the best discharger made these days and where is the best place to buy it?

Also, if anybody in the Pittsburgh area could help me in person and has a vice and an air tool and thinks they can get the breach plug out or any other ides that would be cool as well or has a dis-charger tool that I can borrow I would owe you a big favor


Any info and help would be appreciated. Thank you.
 

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No expert here, have black powder myself. Do you have any lube butter? Maybe put some on a patch. use the ram rod as if you were cleaning the Barrel. Or maybe try squirting a lot of gun oil down the inside of the Barrel. May make it's way around the bullet. Sounds like you have a very dry Barrel. Hope it works.
 

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I agree on the dry barrel. I forgot to put some bore butter in the barrel after cleaning it last time and am paying for it now!! I don`t think the bore butter will work now it won`t get around the maxi-ball to free it. What kind of gun oil do you recommend? A break-free type or lubricating type? What do you think about WD-40 or PB Blaster types? Thank you.
 

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Like I said, no expert, can't hurt to try something. My thought would be to try lubricating. hopefully it will lube it enough to get the ball to move. Maybe still butter the barrel a little, just in case the oil works. Will move the ball a lot easier. Just a thought.
 

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Try tapping the rod to get the Maxi to move down and seat on powder/pellet? Then shoot it out like normal.

Put a little olive oil down the barrel first. Might help, might not if seal ring is tight.
 

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a little penetrating oil on top the maxi and let it soak over night, then try to pull it. If it won't come, use an air compressor, keeping the muzzle in a safe direction. Some percussion nipples are a proper thread fit for a zerk fitting. Then use a grease gun to pump grease in until the bullet is forced out. A pain to clean up, but usually quite effective. The "hydraulic" pressure can move the most stubborn stuck bullet.
 

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There is a spray out called PB Blaster,sold in big box stores.Spray that down the barrel and let it soak spray it a few times.If you know a welder get a steel rod also at the big box store or any hardware store,weld a drywall screw onto it and bang it into the ball and I do mean hit it.screw it into the ball with a vice grip then pull hard.Thats how the gunsmith got one out for me.
 

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I will second what Zimmerstutzen says about the zerk fitting!It will do the trick and not harm the gun,just messy!
 

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Thanks guys, still working on it. There is no nipple on this gun. They use a primer carrier and there is a machined hole thru the breech. I will try the blaster stuff first and see what happens and then on to plan B!! Thank you.
 

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Had a NEF Huntsman many years ago.I took the breech plug out to clean every time.Washed barrel in the tub by running water thru it.When finished I coated with Never-Seize and never had a problem with the plug.Some did make socket adapters for the plug.
Try setting the breech end in real hot water to loosen the plug up if its tight.
 

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If your touch hole is 1/4 28 thread, get a zerk grease fitting and pump grease in the barrel thru the touch hole, slow and a mess to clean up but it works
 

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410-er said:
Had a NEF Huntsman many years ago.I took the breech plug out to clean every time.Washed barrel in the tub by running water thru it.When finished I coated with Never-Seize and never had a problem with the plug.Some did make socket adapters for the plug.
Try setting the breech end in real hot water to loosen the plug up if its tight.
That may work but it has been stuck for many years
 

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325wsm said:
If your touch hole is 1/4 28 thread, get a zerk grease fitting and pump grease in the barrel thru the touch hole, slow and a mess to clean up but it works
There is no thread, the hole is drilled directly thru the beach plug.
 

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Can you put a 6 point socket on the breech plug?
 

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Well, look at it on the bright side, if it stays stuck, get a shiny new ML
Or maybe a new barrel if they still have the accessory barrel program. That would be cool!!
 

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Can you put a 6 point socket on the breech plug?
Great question. No, but if you had a strong air type screwdriver hoodickey that was strong enough with a big standard screwdriver head on maybe the breech plug would come out after a good breech soaking first I would think.
 

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Octagon,

Just to mention again... try pounding it down using a range rod/ramrod? I don't mean a 5-10 pound sledge pounding, but a light ball peen or household hammer. Just enough for movement. It will not hurt the barrel, the lead or lube ring will distort to fit as it goes. And if you keep the rod straight, shouldn't hurt it either.

Get it set down on the powder, and shoot it out.
 
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