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Hi guys I dont have to many post on here yet but i have been talking to my dad about buying a new shotgun for hunting and sporting clays both.I would like to get the stoger condor. I shoot sporting clays every now n again i shot on a team with rock mountain last year and plan to for the next two years untill i graduate. but i realy like the look of this gun and it fits in to my price budget (workin at a grocery store i dont make to much) I called a gun shop close to us and he can get me out the door for 325 i realy like the gun amd was wandering if anyone else has the gun and how they like it.
 

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ive had one for since about 1991 or so, i like it. never had any problems at all. but ive heard of a few having a problem kicking the safety back on after the first shot.

dont know if that issue was ever fixed
 

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i have on also and love it!! had it for +/- 7 yrs and never had a prob. the finish isnt gonna hold up like a higher priced gun, but then again for the price you dont have to worry about "babbying" it
 

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Did you consider looking into used guns? You should be able to get a decent autoloader of better quality than the Stoger for about the same price. You do not need an O/U for clays. Just a thought I figured I'd throw out there.
 

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there's a lanber in the for sale column -- 400 bucks with no dickering - -look at the wood -- if in good shape, this would hold up to the rigors of sporting clays for a while should you get into it.
 

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I know that i dont need and o/u but i rele would like one i am not a big fan of semis and i already have a pump (not good for simos lol) I have shot semis but rele like overand unders and i wouldnt mind a used shoutgun but i realy would like to shoot it first and look at the guns in person i have been looking on here and i think me and dad are going to go to a couple gun shops to look thanks for the input but any more is helpful
 

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there are a lot of guns out there that will hold up well for hunting use - may be a bit rough around the edges, but for hunting, they may last a lifetime.

Enter a shooting game shooting 100 rounds a clip - even just 10 times a year = 1000 rounds which is more than a lot of hunting guns ever get shot. You need something a bit more put together than the average bear.

You have the right track - go around, see what fits - get something quality. I've seen a lot of beretta's and brownings in th 600 range - they're rare, but do happen.
 

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is a lanber any good and has anyone shot one of these lol i am so back and forth i want to amke a good descison
 

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My son shoots for the Factoryville Sportsmens Club Team and uses a Stoeger STF 3000 20 GA over/under. Has about 2000 rounds through it. Had it worked on for the safty and upper firing pin after I got it. It does shoot farely well. I would shop around for a used better quility shotgun. I found his youth model to also be a lot heavier then my Remington Primier. But the recoil is a lot less with his. Looking at the Mossberg over/unders at Gander around 500.
 

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Two years ago I wanted to get an O/U for my daughter but couldn’t really afford the $1,200-1,500 that most “brand name” O/U’s cost.

So I started researching affordable doubles. I looked at Lanbar, Yildez, Charles Daly, Baikal and many others before narrowing the choices down to the Stoeger Condor Supreme and the Remington Spartan SPR 310. The Remington Spartan is the same gun as the Russian made Baikal IZH27. Baikal manufactures them for the Remington Spartan line.

I read some critical reviews claiming failures to fire and other mechanical problems on both guns. I have also read many reviews of owners who love their "economy" O/U's.

Cabela's in Hamburg had a Condor in stock and put a 10 day hold on it for me. Then they had a Spartan shipped from Texas so I could handle both of them and do a side-by-side comparison. I went up and looked at both guns. The Stoeger Condor Supreme had a much nicer fit and finish; it had barrel selection on the tang safety (like my Remington and most other expensive doubles) and had a second bead on the vent rib. It felt and handled nicer than the Remington SPR 310. Chokes for the Stoeger are compatible with Mossberg, Winchester and Browning chokes among others and it was also $ 90.00 cheaper than the Spartan.

The Spartan was blocky and clumsy to handle, especially for a 20 gauge. It only had one bead and it was tiny. There was no barrel selection that I could see and the manual didn’t mention anything about it. The action was much stiffer than the Stoeger and I didn’t like the limited aftermarket choke selection (Colonial Arms or Trulock) or the fact that RemChokes are not compatible with this gun (it’s a Remington in name only).

I went to the store leaning heavily towards the Remington, because I love Remingtons, but after looking at both and weighing all my research…I bought the Stoeger. The Condor comes in two grades. You definitely want the supreme. The regular Condor is only stained (no finish) wood and very plain. If you’re looking for an affordable O/U the Stoeger Condor Supreme seems like a good choice. One thing I didn’t like, like most modern O/U’s, the Stoeger has an auto safety (safety resets every time you open the action). I want my daughter and whoever else uses the gun to stay used to physically resetting the safety after each shot(s) and don't want her getting used to the gun doing it for her. Also, it would be a big pain in the butt when trap shooting (most dedicated trap guns have no safety at all). Fortunately, the auto safety feature is fairly easily disabled. I did the modification myself and later found a Stoeger forum online and a guy emailed me the procedure (was the same thing I did).

Best of all, I added a ladder stand and some ammo to my purchase to bring the total to $500.00 and Cabela’s activated a $150.00 cash card. Flirting with the sales babe that walked me and my new shotgun out to the front of the store was just icing on the cake!

Here is a link to the Condor

I bought the31020 model (20 gauge with 28” barrels) and paid $399.00 for it.

Hope this helps…
 

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Hounder, I would avoid the Stoeger AND the Spartan at all costs. You get what you pay for. Those guns will not hold up to the demands of sporting clays. Not to mention that the trigger pull is like pulling a brick on a string!! But, if that type of gun is all you can afford and you don't want a used semi, then the Stoeger or Spartan are better than no gun at all. Just think though, when you can buy an upgrade, you can sell the old gun to your baby bro for more than it's worth!!
 

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Here's a thought, sell your pump and combine that money
with what you have saved up and you can buy a better gun.
I have the Stoeger Condor o/u 12 gauge and I like it but
I don't shoot on a team or in competitions. I usually shoot
50 shots at a clay course and take it upland hunting a few
times a year. It has held up well so far and it shoots well
enough but I would take stackbarrel's advice and get a
better quality gun if at all possible. Just my 2 cents,
something to consider maybe?
 

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I stopped at Dick's looking at the side by sides yesterday. They had a Condor O/U on clearance for $269!


THe one side by side they had (also Stoeger)was $369. At that price, I am thinking about the condor now!
 
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