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What herbicide is best for starting a food plot? Roundup makes me nervous but I'm afraid to use something that kills the grass and weeds, but doesn't allow the desired plants to germinate and grow.
 

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Roundup will be fine as it will not effect seed germination. Just spray a week or so ahead of time as I think the label says to wait a couple days before seeding. Although I’ve seeded many times as soon as it was dry with normal results.
 

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Yea your fine w round up won’t effect ur plot, it doesn’t stay in the soil. Plant takes it up dies and that’s it. It’s cheaper to go to like tractor supply and rural king and get the generic glyphosate its 41% I believe and they already have it with surfactant. The surfactant helps get a better kill of the vegetation by breaking the surface tension of water and making a finer mist so the plants take it up easier.
 

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We sprayed with Gly this past Monday evening for a plot that will be planted first weekend of August (1/2 of plot) and first weekend of September (1/2 of plot). The local farm store here sells 2.5 gallons of 41% Gly for between $32 and $33.
 

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If you're going to disc/plow the ground, there's no huge need for herbicide. If it's a no-till plot, you'll need to kill vegetation. Fire is a mechanism used in the south, but illegal in PA to DIY. If you're worried about glyphosate and your health, just make sure you have the proper gear on when spraying. (Cover all skin, face, rubber boots, etc.) After the plot is established, you can use a selective herbicide.
 

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OAWC - What are going to plant in August and in September?
For the August planting, it will be a brassica mix of some sort - turnips, rape, radishes, etc. I may throw in some winter peas or soybeans for S&G. I have serious doubts that the peas and/or beans will make it past the 6" stage, so I am not concerned about the competition factor.

For the September planting, it will be oats, barley, clover, some radishes, and maybe some peas/beans again. We really like the barley for seed production the following June for hens and their poults.
 

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If you're going to disc/plow the ground, there's no huge need for herbicide. If it's a no-till plot, you'll need to kill vegetation. Fire is a mechanism used in the south, but illegal in PA to DIY. If you're worried about glyphosate and your health, just make sure you have the proper gear on when spraying. (Cover all skin, https://youtu.be/VQFxmAdyKcgface, rubber boots, etc.) After the plot is established, you can use a selective herbicide.
We tilled our spring plot and all the grass and weeds came right back.
 

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I'm also wary of a product that I need to wear a full HAZMAT suit to apply.
 

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We tilled our spring plot and all the grass and weeds came right back.
There's more weed seed in the dirt than you can probably kill in a lifetime. 😉

All herbicide is likely dangerous to some extent. If you don't want to use it, learn to live with weeds. Not all plots need to look like an advertisement. Success for me is measured in wildlife usage, not quantity of weeds.
 

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There's more weed seed in the dirt than you can probably kill in a lifetime. 😉

All herbicide is likely dangerous to some extent. If you don't want to use it, learn to live with weeds. Not all plots need to look like an advertisement. Success for me is measured in wildlife usage, not quantity of weeds.
My chicory and Ladina clover plot looked fantastic at first. Now there are some grasses and other crap coming in with it. Still see a deer there periodically. With row crops (beets and turnips) I might try mulching between the rows with clippings from my grass. I don't really know what I'm doing but if I plant something and a deer shows up, I feel like I've won.
 

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There's more weed seed in the dirt than you can probably kill in a lifetime. 😉

All herbicide is likely dangerous to some extent. If you don't want to use it, learn to live with weeds. Not all plots need to look like an advertisement. Success for me is measured in wildlife usage, not quantity of weeds.

You can make almost any food plot look like an advertisement. You just have to take selective pictures. :grin2:


Weeds really aren't that bad as long as they don't take it over too much. I remember one time I started spot spraying some large weeds that were in a plot. About a 1/4 way thru the plot I realized that the unknown weed was getting browsed pretty hard by the deer so I quit spraying.


Small plots are even harder to get rid of weeds as seed blows in from the area around it.
 

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Consider notill methods. One of the benefits is prior crops "mulch" surpresses weeds. Gabe Brown has a great book called Dirt to Soil, if you're interested.
 
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