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I hunt on public land that is open to hunting but the corn fields are rented to a local farmer. Some years he gets the corn cut by now some years it is still standing in January. Is it legal to hunt in that corn. The area is stocked with pheasant.
 

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Sec. 2509. Damage to property.

(a) General rule. - It is unlawful for any person while hunting game or wildlife or taking furbearers of any kind to:

(1) Cause or assist in causing damage or injury, in any manner whatsoever, to either real or personal property of any kind.

(2) Leave gates or bars open.

(3) Break down, destroy or injure fences.

(4) Tear down or scatter rail, post, wood or stone piles.

(5) Harass, injure or kill livestock of any kind.

(6) Hunt or trap in or upon unharvested buckwheat, corn, sorghum or soybean fields without the permission of the owner or person in charge of such property.
 

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That is what I thought but I had an LMO tell me different. When I complained that the PGC should require that the farmer have all the corn cut before hunting season. I was told if it is on public land you could hunt in it.
 

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You can hunt standing corn on game lands without permission, not on private land.
 

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Had such a haggle many years ago, while small game hunting in Perry County. A farm we had hunted on for several years, changed hands over the summer and the new owner threw us off on opening day. We got permission to hunt another farm, up the road.

The following year when we went there to hunt, the neighbor who had thrown us off his place, had rented some of the land on the place we had permission and told us to get out of "his fields". We complied and left the areas where corn was standing, hunted on other parts of that farm.

Asked the owner what he thought and he told us to hunt wherever we wanted to, as it was his property and the other guy had just rented some of the cropland. The following weekend we hunted the corn, got the neighbor riled up again, but this time told him to take a hike. That time he left, instead of us.

Never did figure out "who was right", but went with what the actual owner said. Gray area?
 

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22hipower said:
why dont they cut the corn down before hunting season starts ,on the gamelands?
At this spot some years the corn is underwater. This is on a federal flood control dam. The land is open to hunting and managed by the PGC for hunting.
 

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22hipower said:
why dont they cut the corn down before hunting season starts ,on the gamelands?
Farmers that live in around State Game Lands thru out the State, some how do a contract with the PGC to Plant Different things on the SGL fields that are plantable....They plant corn, wheat, buckwheat, soybean and so forth...

As time goes along thru the summer, it either rains like mad like we had this past summer or rains here and there and we have drought conditions but just enough rain to keep those things the farmer planted to grow to harvest...


When Harvest time comes, Farmer goes in and looks over the Corn and Soybeans and decides if there is to much Moisture content in it or just the right amount for picking and storing....

When the Moisture content is at the right place, the farmers go and pick the corn or soybean... it then Stores better for them to use as animal feed and does not mold on them that they have to trash it and take a lose!

Sometimes, that moisture content can take till into December/January to get to the right point, other times, BAM it is at the right point in Mid to end of October!

Now, also you have to remember that an agreement is made by the PGC with the Farmer who wants to Farm the land on SGLs....the Farmer Has to let so much crop on the SGL as Critter food for the Wild critters!
Might that be what your seeing?


And why even be upset about corn growing on State Game Lands??
You can Hunt all you want in those fields!
 

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Please, READ THIS CAREFULLY

If it is State Game Lands, or under a lease agreement like Indian Rock Dam (US Army Corp Of Engineer Prop in York County) then the farmer is a Sharecropper who has a contract with the PGC to farm that land. The PGC is THE LANDOWNER and gives YOU the hunter BLANKET PERMISSION to hunt in the UNHARVESTED CROPS. As explained earlier, a percentage of some crops are required to be left standing by the Sharecropper, for wildlife. In some years farmers are delayed in their harvest due to environmental factors and the full crop stays up longer.

Either way, you are ALLOWED to hunt in UNHARVESTED FIELDS on STATE GAME LAND -->>

That does NOT apply to:

Farm Game Projects,
Safety Zone Program Farms,
Forest Game Projects,
State Parks
or other Cooperative Programs.

These are all PRIVATE agreements between the landowners and the PGC. You MUST have the FARMER'S permission to hunt in any <u>unharvested fields!</u> at these locations.

Thanks Woody!

Why do so many people come on here and complain about things that they actually GET to do? I get so confused...
 

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sgl 232 is the worst gamelands i have hunted in 35 years couldnt even get into the woods from all the downed trees didnt see 1 squirrel
 

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I thought the subject was standing corn?
 

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22hipower said:
sgl 232 is the worst gamelands i have hunted in 35 years couldnt even get into the woods from all the downed trees didnt see 1 squirrel
If you couldn't get into the woods today, why would you expect to see squirrels ? ? ?
 

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Had such a haggle many years ago, while small game hunting in Perry County. A farm we had hunted on for several years, changed hands over the summer and the new owner threw us off on opening day. We got permission to hunt another farm, up the road.

The following year when we went there to hunt, the neighbor who had thrown us off his place, had rented some of the land on the place we had permission and told us to get out of "his fields". We complied and left the areas where corn was standing, hunted on other parts of that farm.

Asked the owner what he thought and he told us to hunt wherever we wanted to, as it was his property and the other guy had just rented some of the cropland. The following weekend we hunted the corn, got the neighbor riled up again, but this time told him to take a hike. That time he left, instead of us.

Never did figure out "who was right", but went with what the actual owner said. Gray area?

Denny, I thought if property was leased to somebody that person had the discretion of who to let on the property to hunt. I forget where I read it but the actual landowner passes that on to the person who is leasing the property. I could be wrong on that though.
 

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Not necessarily, if the lease says the lessor has control over trespass then they may keep people off the land, if they only lease the right to plant the field then they would not have the right to control trespass.
 

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We get the "hunting standing corn on public property" question in Pike county regarding the Delaware Water Gap National Recreation Area. These farmers have a "Land Use" permit and do not have control over the land. The Park Service does not allow hunting in the corn.
 

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took me a half hour crawling thru the downfalls just to get into the woods on sgl 232 in washington county wont hunt there again
hunted here before it was a gamelands the farmer took better care of the land,than does the game commission now ithink they care more about the gas leases than they do the hunters who paid for the land in the first place.
 

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22hipower said:
took me a half hour crawling thru the downfalls just to get into the woods
hunted here before it was a gamelands the farmer took better care of the land,than does the game commission now
I'm sorry, but this is one of the most ridiculous comments that I have seen so far.

You are actually on here complaining, because you were able to utilize PUBLIC lands. You are whining, because you had to work at it. Well, wake up!
The Game Lands are managed for wildlife, which is to your benefit. That doesn't mean they (PGC) are required to hand the game to you...

The PGC gives us, the sportsmen, as much access to the general area of a State Game Lands as possible.
They don't farm the land for a profit. They don't blaze trails for us. They don't make it EASY for us to hunt it. Why should they waste sportsmen's dollars to build roads or trails on SGLs. These are NOT State Parks? Do you have any idea how much work it would take not just to build, but to anually maintain such infrastructure on Game Lands!! Many of you complain that the PGC doesn't do enough now, let's add more for the reduced field staff to do.

It is called - HUNTING not GETTING

Wow... I must have been doing something terribly wrong all of these years, creeping and crawling around in all of those thickets, briars and swamps. I thought it was hunting, but I guess I was wrong...

Anybody???
 

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According to the farmer whose land we hunted on, the other guy rented some of the cropland for corn and hay. No written agreement or "lease", just a bit of money exchanged and a spoken agreement. Although the neighbor had posted the end of the cornfield near the road and away from the owner's house and barn. We parked by the barn.

So the farmer's advice to us, was to hunt where we wanted to, since it was his land.
 

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it wasn'thickets or swamps there were pushed over dead trees you couldnt even crawl over or under to get thru the stuff have ever been onsgl 232? i dont think it is managed very well for wildlife maybe other gamelands but not this one
 
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