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<span style="font-weight: bold">2014</span> Spring Gobbler Season

2014 Spring Gobbler Season is proposed to start on Saturday, April 26 for 1 Day Youth Hunt, and Saturday, May 3 for Regular Season Start Date.

Spring Gobbler Season would run from May 3 to May 31.

Is May 3 too late to start the 2014 Spring Gobbler Season?

Should the Regular Season Start Date be April 26? or April 19?

If so, why?

Don Heckman...
 

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Seems awful late to me, since we've had the late april opener for a while.

I'd like to see it start the 19th for the kids and 26th for the rest of us. Towards late May, it seem the birds are very tight-lipped as they exit the breeding season. I'd rather have my chances earlier at gobbling birds over ambushing a silent bird late in the season. I'm not overly concerned about getting a bird for myself, but I like having exciting footage when I'm hunting with someone else.

Regardless, whatever they decide the season is, that's when I'll be after them.
 

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I'd be 100% in favor of an earlier start. from my experience of scouting every minute I can from March thru May the birds are much more active mid to late April in my neck of the woods. Besides that by the end of May activity is nearly non existant and silent birds are much more common.

Has a split start ever been considered?? The Northern Tier seems a couple of weeks behind the Southern counties as far as "green up" and gobbling activity in my experiences.
 

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BONZy said:
I'd be 100% in favor of an earlier start. from my experience of scouting every minute I can from March thru May the birds are much more active mid to late April in my neck of the woods. Besides that by the end of May activity is nearly non existant and silent birds are much more common.

Has a split start ever been considered?? The Northern Tier seems a couple of weeks behind the Southern counties as far as "green up" and gobbling activity in my experiences.
Been working that angle for years, Bonzy. I have been working for a earlier start for some time now. Especially in the sw and se parts of the state where the spring green up is far ahead of the rest of the state. I saw poults the first week and bachelor gobbler groups the second week with little interest in the call. This trend has been becoming more normal for close to a decade now in these parts.

The fall seasons are differing lengths. I don't see why we can't alter our starts or change them based on weather variances. Look at any spring planting guide for PA and you can see the contrasts.

When the weeds are thigh high and visibility is less,than 20 yards on the opener, Houston, we have a problem.
 

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I can't think of a reason why, other than the birds would be more vocal & probably respond to calling more if the season started earlier, say the middle of April. My reasons are pretty much selfish. But I would certainly welcome it.
 

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Birds won't be more responsive to calling with an earlier to start to the season. They aren't going to come investigate some hen calling when they have the real thing to breed right in front of them. Some of the best hunting I've had has been the last week of the season after all the breeding has been done. We have a strong turkey population because the hunting season takes place after the majority of the breeding has already been done.
 

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New york season always opens on May 1, even if it's a Sunday.lol No problem finding them up there. We also opened in May before.I myself like to work the more mature birds near the end of our season.

Like the last poster mentioned my reasons and many others are pretty much selfish. I believe though if you want to see a bigger harvest then yes, start youth and the regular Spring gobbler season (2) weeks earlier. JMO.
 

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bigbear said:
Birds won't be more responsive to calling with an earlier to start to the season. They aren't going to come investigate some hen calling when they have the real thing to breed right in front of them. Some of the best hunting I've had has been the last week of the season after all the breeding has been done. We have a strong turkey population because the hunting season takes place after the majority of the breeding has already been done.
In the portion of Greene county amd Washington that I hunt, the majority of the breeding and laying is being done in April. Flocks are beginning to bust up and the gobblers transitioning back into summer patterns during opening week I saw poults the first week last year. It does seem that this is a trend that is occurring earlier and earlier.

I also realize that other parts of the state are vastly different. Here, thigh high weeds and almost full leaf out is common by the second week.
 

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bigbear said:
Birds won't be more responsive to calling with an earlier to start to the season. They aren't going to come investigate some hen calling when they have the real thing to breed right in front of them.
My experience hunting during our youth season & out-of-state where seasons start earlier tells me something different.
 

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I prefer the earlier start. I hear more gobblers then and they come in during the earlier start across the river in OH.
 

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Uncle Nicky said:
bigbear said:
Birds won't be more responsive to calling with an earlier to start to the season. They aren't going to come investigate some hen calling when they have the real thing to breed right in front of them.
My experience hunting during our youth season & out-of-state where seasons start earlier tells me something different.
+1..me too. There's something wrong when our season comes in after NY's.
 

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Legislation to implement spring turkey stamps. $10.

License buyer has the option of purchasing a stamp for zone A or B or both. Each zone having a different start and end dates.

Don has been wishing for a turkey stamp for some time. Well, here ya go. The perfect opportunity.
 

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I think May 3 is definitely too late. What is the reason behind it?
 

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WHY is it that the PGC can't stand it when something is successful...everytime and I mean everytime they start changing things due to the brilliant minds that work there they completely mess things up... Which outstanding biologist came up with this one.. I hope the PA-NWTF takes a major major stance against it.. it can't be with the numbers of the turkey population..it's at an all all time high... they just can't stand it... there's no other reason.
 

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GobbleBuck said:
I think May 3 is definitely too late. What is the reason behind it?
don't question authourity....they know what is best for all of us!
 

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GobbleBuck said:
I think May 3 is definitely too late. What is the reason behind it?
It is how the calendar plays out in 2014. Historically the season is four weeks and ends on memorial day.
 

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I remember a couple of years ago youth season opened the first day of trout season. It would be nice if it was like that every year and regular season would follow the next weekend. It seems odd that next years opener would start almost a full week later than this years. I know they say weather doesn't play any part of it, but my experience during early springs is the season ends before it starts.
 

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I dont like the late date at all. I am good with the end of April but remember when it was a week earlier too. Turkey population according to the NWTF is down 15 % nation wide. If numbers are declining then do not offer a second spring tag and give an option to use your fall tag if not filled as the second tag. I would like to hear what the PGC has to say about the late date.
 

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RaspyJoe said:
I know they say weather doesn't play any part of it, but my experience during early springs is the season ends before it starts.
Yep. I do firmly believe with birds, weather is the key. Birds will nest amd lay earlier if spring comes early. And, springs have been coming earlier and earlier in the sw and se part of the state for some time.
 

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Am I missing something or is May 3rd a Friday? At least Windows tells me it is.
 
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