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Got to lookin at a new S&W SXS built by Huglu in Turkey. It is a 20 guage fixed choke but is not marked anywhere what constriction they are. Each barrel has a series of stars under the forearm but I'm not sure whta they designate??

Anyone know what the star designations on each barrel represent. I am sure it is constiction but not sure what 3-stars v.s. 4-stars signifies??
 

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It's choke for sure. I'm not sure if Turks use european markings or have their own?

I'd do some reasearch on the shotgun in question. Shotgun world may be a good place to search and ask about it. I've seen good and bad reviews. I would lean more toward a spanish sxs over a turkish. I think the spanish workmanship is better then the turkish. That is a beautiful (the s&w) sxs though.
 

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*** and **** designate Mod/IC....The Turks, for some reason, use this system of choke designation.

The low-end Turkish guns can be rough but seem serviceable....My 16 gauge Kimber Valier II, made by AKUS, is not one of these...a 7-pin sidelock with an articulating front trigger, it's a joy to carry and shoot....

The S&Ws I've seen are decent little guns. Not sure if I would buy one over an SKB 280 if I had my choice...NIB or very lightly used SKB 280s in 20 gauge can still be had in the same price range...The Smiths do not seem to be selling well and I suspect the reason just may be their price tag?
 

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Thanks Bob, If I had to bet on anyone having an answer it would have been you


Although I figured it was IC/Mod, I couldn't find a definitive answer anywhere, including the owners manual and the Huglu website.
 

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I would look into an Ugartechea, before I bought that huglu.

Just my opinion, but I think they are nicer and in the long run likely better. At least I personally would feel better carrying a gun made in spain vs one from turkey even if they are of the same quality. But thats me.
 

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Most welcome, BONZy. I called Kimber when I bought the Valier....their guy had no idea what choking the stars denoted....

Retract what I said about SKB 280s being priced similarly to the Smith....they're not...the SKB is a better finished gun but several hundred $ over an S&W....
 

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Ithaca/SKBs and SKBs are nifty shotguns.

A buddy collects them (and also Wincester 21s). Several years ago he found a beautiful 28ga double that I'm pretty sure was an older SKB? Got to handle it, never did get to shoot it.

My only double is a 1930s vintage Crescent-Davis 20ga. Like comparing a Yugo to a Mercedes, but it is in great shape and works fine for me as a bird gun.
 

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S&W chokes should be IC/M as noted. These seem like nice little guns, although I have no experience with Turkish guns. I know someone who has a S&W Elite, and he loves the gun. The S&W lifetime warranty might be a good selling factor too.
http://www.billhanusbirdguns.com/swgoldelite.html

As for Uggie's, they are nice, but which one do you get? Gr. 1, 2, 3 or 4? And why stop there? Spend that much $$$$ for a Gr. 4 Uggie and you're approaching AYA, Arrieta and Grulla territory. Geez, so many SxS's, and so little time and money it seems to procure them!

How about the new Fausti's?
http://www.billhanusbirdguns.com/fausti.html
 
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