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letinmfly said:
They should IMO. If they are, the welfare benefits should be terminated with no chance of reinstatement of benefits.

Again IMO, anyone that receives welfare and is an able body to work should be on road crews cleaning the roads and highways. Let them cut grass where budgets aren't allowing the DPW crews to cut grass on these roads and highways.
It's an old concept....WORK=PAY.
From an emotional standpoint to answer YES would be the correct answer but in reality I would have to say NO.

I oppose anything that gives hard-earned taxpayers money away free, including the bailouts and the Cash for Clunkers program but to use them as laborers is problematic several ways.
First off slavery was abolished over 125 years ago, and having them perform roadwork, trash removal or urban beautification projects would be cutting jobs that traditionally are done by paid union employees. Further more you would be opening the state up to multi million dollar lawsuits when the truly lazy get hurt the first 15 minutes that you are trying to get your pound of flesh.

As for the drug testing how often are they tested, and who foots that bill? I don’t think you have anymore right to drug test people on welfare anymore then I do to sell them a hunting license or as part of a loan application.

Welfare definitely needs to be reworked but not all or even a majority of the people that collect are druggies.
JMO I think it should be given for a period of time not to exceed 26 weeks without reapplying and real proof of the persons need should be evident.
Welfare was never intended to be someone’s occupation and when someone is a 5th generation receiver then something is wrong.
 

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I reckon if you cant get a job in 6months, then national service. If your on the dole and tested positive for drugs, then all privilages should be stopped straight away. No second chances. I am sick to death of uni graduates who want to be a rocket scientist. Thats all they want to do. Cant get there scientist job so they spent 10 years on the dole. life is to easy for them. More money should be spent on mental health. Especally for people who have fought for there country. thanks
 

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Birch812 said:
First off slavery was abolished over 125 years ago, and having them perform roadwork, trash removal or urban beautification projects would be cutting jobs that traditionally are done by paid union employees. Further more you would be opening the state up to multi million dollar lawsuits when the truly lazy get hurt the first 15 minutes that you are trying to get your pound of flesh.

As for the drug testing how often are they tested, and who foots that bill? I don’t think you have anymore right to drug test people on welfare anymore then I do to sell them a hunting license or as part of a loan application.
I don't see how slavery was even brought into this discussion. The people receiving benefits would be working for there assistance check. Slavery is a form of forced labor in which people are considered to be, or treated as, the property of others. Slavery and working to get public assistance, no connection between the two.

Performing road work should be left to PennDot and such but, trash removal and beautification projects are mostly done by volunteers. So I can't see your argument of loss of union jobs on that one.

As for who will pay for the test. The PA Department of Corrections drug test every inmate in the state at least every 6 months already. I'm sure the state can get an even better contract with the drug testing companies if this plan was involved also. I went onto PA assistance web site to get some $$ examples. From what I can tell from the site a single person getting assistance gets about $500 a month with food stamps and cash assistance plus FULL MEDICAL COVERAGE. As we all know what a doctor's visit can cost. You could go even deeper into it and look at all the low income housing and the limiting on how much people on public assistance pay for utilities. All payed by our tax $$$. From looking at that I believe it will more than pay for itself.
 

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Seems to this old retired guy that state could foot the cost of drug trsts. They are much cheaper than the welfare checks sent out. I had to pass drug tests for some of my jobs, think if ordinary guy needs tested to work and pay taxes welfare people should too!
 

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something needs to be done about people collecting welfare from multiple states at the same time. they use a relatives address in another state and start collecting cash assistance, food stamps, medical assistance, etc. this baffles me, with a simple computer check , this shouldn't happen at all.
 

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I need to take drug tests to work. So I also need to take a drug test to get my pay checks, part of which I have to give to the gov't. So I need to take a drug test to give MY money to a welfare recipient. If I need to take and pass a drug test to give them money they should have to take and pass a drug test to recieve MY money. Just MY two cents.
 

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rflktrman said:
I had to take drug tests for my jobs, why should they not have to take them too to get a check?

Oh that's right, I had a job and wanted to keep it.
You "had" a job and wanted to keep it? I may be assuming ( I know what happens when you assume ), but I think you ment to type "have" a job, or you are retired. If that is correct, I agree with you 100%
 

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letinmfly said:
They should IMO. If they are, the welfare benefits should be terminated with no chance of reinstatement of benefits.

Again IMO, anyone that receives welfare and is an able body to work should be on road crews cleaning the roads and highways. Let them cut grass where budgets aren't allowing the DPW crews to cut grass on these roads and highways.
It's an old concept....WORK=PAY.
+1
 
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