How many guys own and have used those Savage 24 combination guns? I use my Grandfathers. It's a .22 mag over .410 and is just about perfect for squirrels and groundhogs. My late FIL had one in .223 over 12 gauge that I used for Fall turkey and it was just perfect for that application. My buddy won one in a raffle one time and it was a .357 mag over 20 gauge. We never really figured out what that one was good for? Anyhow I think the Savage 24's are a great, practical firearm.