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I see people are buying them tags up! For what reason ? To help out the reduction of CWD ? Baloney !
Are you really going to take a deer,in that area and hunt down a dumpster to put the head,spine and hide? I'd bet less than half the parts make it to a dump point from the ones shot.
You really going to eat possible tainted meat from them and or feed it to your family and friends? I am aged,so i will never see it,but,i sure hope over time they,the people whom say it shouldn't,not,it won't hurt you,come back and say,in a few years,well,i guess we were wrong,sorry!
If you see a deer stumbling through the woods,will you shoot it and gut it and take it home??? I doubt it!
It breaks my heart that the DMA area has moved into where we hunt and that i mesed up and sent for a doe tag for there.
 

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I see people are buying them tags up! For what reason ? To help out the reduction of CWD ? Baloney !
Are you really going to take a deer,in that area and hunt down a dumpster to put the head,spine and hide? I'd bet less than half the parts make it to a dump point from the ones shot.
You really going to eat possible tainted meat from them and or feed it to your family and friends? I am aged,so i will never see it,but,i sure hope over time they,the people whom say it shouldn't,not,it won't hurt you,come back and say,in a few years,well,i guess we were wrong,sorry!
If you see a deer stumbling through the woods,will you shoot it and gut it and take it home??? I doubt it!
It breaks my heart that the DMA area has moved into where we hunt and that i mesed up and sent for a doe tag for there.
To answer some of your questions here I go, To help out reduction: Nope I just love killing deer. When I was younger a nr getting a doe tag was like hitting the lottery. Yes, I take my parts to a designated dumpster by the PGC. Not that complicated to adbide to but its the law and I have always gave my best effort to comply. Yes, I eat the meat and give away to friends and family as I have my entire life. CWD was not invented in Pa., its been around for a long time and haven't heard of anyone dying. However I would not trust the meats from some of the markets you consume in todays world. I buy my beef from local farmer and butcher my own hogs making my own hams, sausage, bacon, and roasts. I don't do mercy killings, everyone one else can but I don't. I don't know what to tell you willy by them or not by them, shoot em or not shoot em. Your choice!
 

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+1....it's not really hard, and myself, my family, and friends all eat the meat. Chances are decent you've eaten it yourself already, and just don't know it.
 

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Hunt ALL over "GROUND ZERO' ALL my life. Have taken every opportunity for the tags of any nature when available. Since CWD, I have not changed my stance on hunting/harvesting from DMA2. I have never seen, nor heard talk of sickly looking or acting deer in the area.
If I don't apply and get tags, someone else will gladly buy them up!
As for using the dumpsters, one is provided close by on SGL I hunt and we frequent it regularly. Prior, a neighbor was an approved butcher outside of DMA2 where you could take animal for peocessing.
NOT getting and using available tags is a sure way to aid in the spread.
In reality, this is a VAST amount of land.... the extra DMA2 tags are not going to obliterate the white-tailed deer from the area.
 

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It is truly nice to see some honesty posted on here,from you few that replied! Thank you guys.
Yes,i most likely have eaten it. Last season we took deer in the part that was not included in the DMA area. Still alive,too!
My problem is if i got one ,in there,i would have to skin it in the woods and cut it up there? My place i stay at is outside the border and can't take it there to do it?
I will not pay a deer butcher to do it,cost is too high.
So,you guys go for it and have fun!
 

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Just another smoke and mirrors game from the PGC...Lets kill all the deer in the DMA area..As the years go by the DMA area enlarges to the entire state..So they want every deer dead in PA whether they look sick or not..If every deer in the state is wiped out then a lot of PGC employees will be out of a job..It is all a big bunch of nonsense..A few deer are found sick so what they are either dead or walking dead..Other stupid states tell the PGC to wipe out all the deer and the disease will die away..This is another stupid theory..Its a case of the blind leading the blind..Man has known for centuries that mother nature takes care of itself and deer have lived for millions of years..The deer over time will build immunity to the CWD and they will succeed...There is nothing the PGC or any other state can do to speed up this process..
 

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I own a cabin in the DMA2 area and I agree that it is nonsense. I have hunted the area for 25 years now and have seen it good and terrible as far as deer numbers go. I cannot comprehend how killing off all of the deer in the area is a good thing. The increased numbers of tags is obviously not the answer as they have sold extra tags for two years now and somehow the area is now larger. If killing more deer actually contained the disease wouldn't they have actually been able to shrink the area not expand it again?
 

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Do your home work on it! I have my own opinions also that I don't care to debate on here. Have they told us about all the federal money they received for it? I went to a meeting the PGC put on and asked the question of all the dma-2 tags which came out to be a 90,000 + income does in go in to research? The answer was no it goes in to the general fund. They had to pay for some dumpsters and papers they distruibted at the meeting and little overtime that night but other then that another income.
 

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I bought my first DMA 2 permit this year. When they expanded the western zone to PA route 160 last year that put my house within 1 mile of the zone. So, I thought I might as well get one. I don't know if I'll use it or not since I already have a 2C tag.
 

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I'd get one but it's too far away for me to bother with.
I'm sure the whole state will be under some sort of disease management within 5 years.
 

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I got a dma tag last year and used it. She was tasty! Adhering to the laws for the permit are simple and a no-brainer. If you think the PGC wants to eradicate the herd through hunting you're smoking something. Think for a minute that probably one of the biggest reasons for the commission's existence is deer. Does it make any logical sense for them to eradicate the very thing that keeps them in business?

Look at the numbers. Of course if you believe in conspiracy theories then I guess you don't believe the numbers/facts.

http://www.pgc.pa.gov/Wildlife/WildlifeS...Information.pdf

Page 2 is a good start. Notice that in 3A they have "increase" goals, which mean's they want to increase the population in that WMU by reducing license sales. If they're really trying to eliminate the herd, why are they recommending a reduction in licenses to increase the herd?

Note that only 8 WMU's out of 23 have a recommendation to increase licenses to reduce the population increase. In all others it's either a reduction in licenses or a stable line though this ties into the later sections on number of licenses required to harvest one deer. So in some cases they have to increase the number of licenses issued to harvest the same number of deer.

I know this is a lot of data to consume, but consider that they don't take this stuff lightly. Obviously.

If you have a short attention span, pages 28-50 have some important, easy to read data sets that should be of interest to your specific WMU.

Again, unless of course you think this is all a conspiracy theory setup by the automotive insurance industry in cooperation with the bigfoot fund and supported by the coyote domination alliance with financial support from the predators R us group. In which case there is no hope for you. Carry on.
 

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Heck of an opinion from a newbie on here!
Sounds like a pretty well-informed newbie to me.
 

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Gee buddy,don't say stuff like that born yesterday,they will want to see your birth certification !
 

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I ve been up on the CWD myself and never once thought of a conspiracy of the issue. On the posts here in this forum really never heard anyone attacking it. I actually thought they didn't give enough this year since they made the DMA larger.
 
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