Everyday Hunter said:
1. Do you use decoys? Yes
2. If you use dekes, do you use them in fields, or in woods? In field setups - almost always. Seldom in woods.
3. Do you get a different reaction in fields than in woods? When I have used them in the woods, the turkeys generally don't seem to see them.
4. Do your dekes ever spook gobblers? Where? Why? Not that I can tell.
5. Why do dekes often spook gobblers in the woods, and less often in the fields?
Thanks.
Steve.
I have cheapo foam dekes that are 10+ years old. If you watched any of the clips I posted of this year's hunts, you have seen two of them. When it comes to my decoys, I am certainly not one of the cool kids.
I occasionally use them in the woods if I feel that I am "forced" into a setup where a tom can see a long way; this really only happens when I am hunting with kids and feel like I can't get to a better setup quickly enough or stealthily enough. In those cases, if there is an open area, skid road, etc, I will sometimes set up dekes, but when birds have come into woods setups, they just don't seem to spot the decoys in most cases. I do not see decoys in the woods as an advantage, and actually think they decrease the safety factor because other hunters sneaking through the woods often won't notice them until they get very close, and then folks' knee jerk reaction is to pull up and shoot.
I have never used a strutter decoy, but could see how some birds would be put off by them. I can't say that I know for sure that my dekes have ever spooked a bird. Sure, they may not come right in or up to the decoys sometimes, but I've never had them spot the decoys, putt, and walk away, etc. When they don't come, it's more like they just aren't convinced that they need to, not that they appear to be alarmed.
I have had very poor luck with longbeards coming to a single hen decoy. Just last Saturday with my son we set up on a field edge with birds in the field, so I could only get a hen set, right on the edge. An hour later, I called a tom off the ridge side 400-500 yards away, after he had stood up there gobbling a while. He hit the field at 200+ yards and started crossing at an angle to our setup. I called, and he stopped and began to stare at the decoy. In typical fashion, after 3 or 4 minutes of staring, he turned and headed our way. Looked like a lock until at 150 yards he just kind of angled off course and veered to the wood line. He gobbled once when he was just out of sight, and that was it.
I try to use two dekes because my theory is that one "blob" in a field can look just like a turkey, but when two blobs close together in a field both look like turkeys, the leap to "knowing" that they are turkeys is a quick one, even if neither so much as twitches. I know that turkeys don't reason like that, but...
I also use a white/red-headed jake with a hen. My experience has been that most toms will come to check it out when they see this combination. Sure, there are exceptions when they are just too "henned up", but the odds of pulling them away from hens with a hen and a jake seem to be much higher than just trying to pull them away to another set of hens. I am also convinced that the jake is the piece of the setup that makes it hard to resist because the toms invariably head straight for the jake and interact with it first. With the hen and jake decoy setup, I can't recall a time that I've ever had a tom hang up and strut and wait for the hen to come to him.
I love to hunt without dekes when I hunt in the woods by myself. But I have to say that I have learned FAR more about turkeys' interactions with each other by watching and listening to them as they interact with my decoys. I believe it has literally trimmed years off of the learning curve for me; that in spite of the fact that I'm still a pretty poor turkey hunter.