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Whats the lastest thoughts on this subject? Mods please feel free to move post if you think this would be better elsewhere. I'm curious to what our WCO's and anyone else in the loop is hearing. Thats why I posted this hear.
 

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I would buy one but I would also have to ask what the point of the stamp would be. If meant as a stand alone source of funding for all pheasant programs I can't see it actually working. If it was to be an inexpensive stamp that would be used to help offset the costs then I could see it being beneficial. In order for a stamp to cover the entire pheasant program it would need to cost more than a normal resident hunting license. That in itself would push most people away. Without a descent level of participation the whole thing would be set up to fail. My personal opinion is that I would buy a $40+ stamp but it would bring in alot more money if the stamp was $10 to $15. I know alot of guys that would be unhappy about a $10 stamp but would suck it up and pay to hunt birds. On the other hand I have a hard time believing those guys would pay more than that.
 

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Because it's a put and take proposition here in PA for the most part I think there should be a stamp for that to help cover the costs. I don't hunt pheasant because of the lack of birds and the crowding on SGL's with guys after them. It's not like deer or squirrel or turkey that are there already....these birds aren't wild, they're raised and stocked just like trout....survival is low too.
 

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Very little thought in that post. The PGC has handled their money extremely well, it is amazing they can still operate considering how long it has been since the last license increase. The thing with a stamp is, don't buy one if you don't want to, it isn't mandatory unless you partake in the privilege it allows. Hunting in PA is as cheap or expensive as you make it, it should not be for next to nothing as some believe it should.
 

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The thing with a stamp is, don't buy one if you don't want to, it isn't mandatory unless you partake in the privilege it allows.
That's the idea I have. I bow hunt and drag the smokepoles around in fall and winter so I buy those stamps. I don't complain about it because I enjoy those hunts. I don't hunt birds much at all. I'd have a problem with a grouse stamp or turkey stamp though because they are naturally occurring and are largely not stocked. I'm fine with the bear license because it's big game and highly managed. Pheasants though are more stocked than not and I think those that target them should have to buck up for it.
 

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I guarantee if the wild pheasant population ever comes back to huntable populations, the people who are upset about the possibility of a pheasant stamp will be first in line to hunt them. I am not big on ear makred money from stamps but I would buy one. What should happen is the price of a license should go up substantially to allow the PGC to manage all species without the need for a small game stamp and if you want to hunt a species do so, if you don't want to hunt a species, don't hunt it.
 

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We may see wild pheasants hold, the stamp would help pay for some of the stocked birds, and the PGC could take some of the funds they been spending on pheasants and use it toward grounds work. I don't hunt them myself also because they are not wild.
 

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I don't hunt them anymore either but once a year, when I drive four hours south for Thanksgiving. But I hunted them a lot in years gone bye and would like to see more birds for our younger generation. I spent many a memorable days with family and dogs. Actually dogs are considered family in our family. I'm a grouse hunter always have been, but pheasant hunting has its place to. I would also like to see a general license increase. I'd pay $100 for a general license, heck I'd pay $200.00. But, that's me and I value hunting highly. As for the dude that said the PGC doesn't manage their money correctly. I have to ask, what would you do differently? What suggestions do you have? I'm curious.

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I guarantee if the wild pheasant population ever comes back to huntable populations, the people who are upset about the possibility of a pheasant stamp will be first in line to hunt them. I am not big on ear makred money from stamps but I would buy one. What should happen is the price of a license should go up substantially to allow the PGC to manage all species without the need for a small game stamp and if you want to hunt a species do so, if you don't want to hunt a species, don't hunt it.
I agree, but do you think its ok for PF to go through the legislators to extort the money that would be used for habitat work for all game animals to be used solely for grasses on private lands? If that had passed there would be no more money for habitat work for anything else or not much money.
 

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It is a good idea. All the money could go toward pheasant restoration and propagation and they wouldn't have to take it out of the general liscense. Also would cut back on the pheasant hunters in the field. It wouldn't be so nuts on stocked land and everyone wouldn't be stomping my rabbit hunting spots to death to shoot one of the few pheasants that the game commission releases.
 

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As I stated, I do not like ear marking funds. That said I can understand why PF is requesting this legislation to create a special fund. They have been doing a lot of work on restoration in partnership with the PGC and what they are doing takes money that has been in short supply for the last several years and they are looking for a consistant pool of funds. PF and the RGS are some of the few organizations that not only raise money but roll up their sleeves and actually do the labor of habitat work. I don't consider what they are asking for extorsion. Pheasant habitat is habitat for more upland species than just pheasants. If the PGC would get a substantial license increase the request for ear marked money would be unnecessary.
 

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I'd pay for a stamp if they started stocking farmlands again. Been a while since I hunted a GL for Pheasant, but the last time I did, I got hit in the chest with a couple pellets. Stung and welted, but no real damage. I honestly don't know how it's been as safe as it has. The GL parking lot was a madhouse. There were groups of hunters criss-crossing fields towards each other, etc.... I said my gosh this is scarey.
 

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I'd pay for a stamp if they started stocking farmlands again. Been a while since I hunted a GL for Pheasant, but the last time I did, I got hit in the chest with a couple pellets. Stung and welted, but no real damage. I honestly don't know how it's been as safe as it has. The GL parking lot was a madhouse. There were groups of hunters criss-crossing fields towards each other, etc.... I said my gosh this is scarey.
Thats why I only hunt them once a year when I go back to our hometown area. Where I live now I've heard of a few spots that have pheasants, but I've never been to them due to what you just mentioned. I heard its like a pumpkin patch.

Plus, I now live where grouse are plentiful and I'm in heaven. The Laurel Highlands don't have the grouse and haven't for awhile like they used to. Theres a few here and there, but it doesn't compare to the Alleghenies in grouse. I don't no if it was west nile virus, forestry problems or what.
 

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I'd pay for the stamp but IMHO a $20.00 stamp wouldn't really cut it or cover expenses ofraising birds.

they should go with a $40.00 stamp like nj.


I'll have to dig around in my files for all the figures.

hey firehunter can you give us some insight on this?


no matter what theprice of a stamp I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
 
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