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YORK COUNTY MEN APPREHENDED IN GAME WARDEN ASSAULT

HARRISBURG, PA - Two York County men have been charged in the felony assault of a State Game Warden in Norwegian Township, Schuylkill County.

Wade Michael Winemiller, 57, of Wrightsville, and Thomas E. Kelly Jr., 57, of Glen Rock, have been charged in the assault of State Deputy Game Warden David P. Fidler.

The incident occurred Dec. 1 when Fidler was investigating a complaint of deer possibly being shot from ATVs on Peach Mountain within a Hunter Access Program property that is patrolled by Game Commission officers.

Fidler encountered two men illegally riding ATVs on the property and an altercation ensued in which Fidler sustained injuries requiring medical attention. He was treated and released at Lehigh Valley Hospital in Pottsville.

Fidler has been a Deputy State Game Warden for 18 years and was selected as Deputy of the Year in 2013.

Game Commission Wardens, as well as Pennsylvania State Police troopers, the Minersville Police Department and other local police departments responded to the scene to assist. Descriptions of the assailants were released to news media.

Winemiller was arrested Monday at his home by Pennsylvania State Police and State Game Wardens. He was arraigned before Magisterial District Judge Anthony Kilker in Shenandoah, placed on a $150,000 straight cash bail and committed to Schuylkill County Prison, where he remained this morning.

Kelly surrendered Tuesday afternoon at Magisterial District Judge David Plachko’s office in Port Carbon, where he was arraigned and posted 10 percent of $100,000 bail to gain his release.

Winemiller and Kelly both face charges that include: aggravated assault, disarming a law-enforcement officer, robbery, simple assault, resisting arrest, disorderly conduct, harassment, and control of property violations.

“I want to thank our Wardens, the Pennsylvania State Police and all responding agencies for the swift and thorough investigation that resulted in the quick identification and apprehension of the suspects,” said Game Commission Southeast Regional Director Bruce Metz.

MEDIA CONTACT: Travis Lau - 717-705-6541

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https://www.yorkdispatch.com/story/...ttacked-game-warden-stole-his-gun/2206938002/

Two York County men are charged with felony assault and related offenses for allegedly attacking a Pennsylvania game warden in the woods of Schuylkill County and stealing his handgun.

Wade Michael Winemiller, 57, of the 400 block of Pleasant Hill Road in Lower Windsor Township, and Thomas Earl Kelly Jr., 57, of the 18000 block of Rosewood Drive in Hopewell Township, were arraigned Monday, Dec. 3, according to online court records.

They are charged with aggravated assault, conspiracy to commit that offense, disarming a law-enforcement officer, robbery, simple assault, resisting arrest, harassment and disorderly conduct.

Winemiller and Kelly allegedly punched, beat and boot-stomped state Game Commission Deputy Warden David Fidler and stole his firearm, according to charging documents filed against the men by state police.

According to those documents, Fidler was dispatched to a wooded area off Peach Mountain Road in Norwegian Township about 10 a.m. Saturday, Dec. 1, for a deer that was shot, possibly by someone on an ATV.

While walking the trail in the woods, he heard ATVs approaching and stepped off the trail until Winemiller and Kelly drove up, then stepped back onto the trail and stopped them, state police said.

Instead of stopping, the men took off on the orange and black ATVs, leaving the trail, troopers said. But one rolled his ATV going up a mountain and the other stalled his out, police said.

Fidler tried to detain Winemiller and Kelly, but the men would not cooperate, charging documents state.

The allegations: The game warden initially pulled out his duty handgun after Kelly made a fist and cocked back his arm, but Fidler then put away his gun and started examining one of the ATVs, according to police.

That's when Kelly started swinging his fist several times and succeeded in punching Fidler in the face, documents state.

Fidler sprayed Kelly in the face with pepper spray, but it didn't stop him, according to state police.

Winemiller and Kelly then started chasing Fidler, who again unholstered his gun, documents state.

Kelly grabbed the game warden's arm and pushed it downward, at which point he and the game warden began struggling as the warden fell to his knees, according to charging documents.

Both Kelly and Winemiller grabbed Fidler's service weapon as Fidler was on the ground, hunched over in an attempt to keep the firearm near his body, police said.

"Fidler then turned his firearm's muzzle to his left side, where (Kelly) was ... and discharged one round," but it went into the ground, charging documents state.

Punched in head: By that time, Kelly and Winemiller were punching Fidler in the head, and Kelly then started kicking Fidler in the head numerous times while wearing boots — which were possibly motorcycle-style boots, police allege.

Winemiller then grabbed Fidler's gun out of the game warden's hands and started to back up, charging documents state.

"It's over, throw the gun in the woods," Fidler told him, according to police, and Winemiller told the game warden he could "pick up the gun at the next intersection by the creek," documents state.

Kelly was yelling for his ATV key, which Fidler had, police said. Fidler pulled the key out of his pocket and gave it to Kelly, after which both Winemiller and Kelly fled the area, documents state.

Fidler was taken by ambulance to a local hospital and treated for injuries he suffered during the attack, police said.

Confrontational? "Multiple investigatory leads" led state troopers to Winemiller and Kelly, according to charging documents, which state the men were known to operate orange and black ATVs and were known "to be confrontational with other ATV riders," documents state.

State police went to Winemiller's home, prompting him to say, "I knew you guys were coming," documents allege.

Police also found the ATVs Winemiller and Kelly allegedly used that day in Winemiller's garage, and they found one had a broken hand guard, which was left at the scene of the attack on Fidler, documents state. The ATVs were seized as evidence, police said.

Winemiller told troopers, "I should have changed out that hand guard," documents state.

Kelly remains free on $100,000 bail. Reached Tuesday, Dec. 4, he declined comment.

Winemiller remains in Schuylkill County Prison in lieu of $150,000 bail, according to court records. It is unclear if he has retained an attorney; he could not be reached for comment.
 

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Both these pukes need some serious time in state prison, not in the country jail. Now that those who were bad mouthing the officer for the reported firing of his sidearm have the truth don't you wish you would not have been so quick to criticize?
 

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Apparently a couple of "bad bleeps" that will finally get what's coming to them?

Aside from the charges relative to their attack on the officer, that part about "known to be confrontational to other ATVers", caught my eye. Who hasn't know people prone to be confrontational and ready to rumble at a moment's notice.

Known my share, good to see someone that conducts themselves that way, get their comeuppance.
 
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Lucky for the Deputy this didn,t get worse.
True Story.
Close to 10 years ago now a fella I know was a Licensed Vet,a part time Twp.Police Officer and a Deputy Game Warden.His family ran the Heinz Hitch for years.
I can,t remember all of the details but he was involved in a stop on the hi-way at I70 in Washington,Pa.He found out the guy he stopped was wanted for a bad domestic crime just hours earlier in a Mon Valley town if my memory is correct.He had no intention of bein takin to jail and not only knocked the Officer out cold but then preceded to take the Officers weapon and executed him
right there on the road.

I don,t remember how they knew it was him but caught up with him held up in his house and arrested him after a standoff.

Like I said.This coulda went down a lot worse than it did.
 

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Reading that, these guys are low-life animals who belong in a cage. They could have killed him. You stomp on someone's head with boots on, that's attempted murder in my book.
 

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Both these pukes need some serious time in state prison, not in the country jail. Now that those who were bad mouthing the officer for the reported firing of his sidearm have the truth don't you wish you would not have been so quick to criticize?
A court will decide what is the truth or not. Not a media story or investigation.
 

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I would respond to your Smart azz nonsense but it would do not good and it would probably not be good for me. Perhaps they are your relatives!
 

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Easy...….Remain calm..... They'll get their due process.....Just be thankful no one was killed over these guys stupid decisions.
 

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No not at all my relatives or any affiliation to the previous people that you referenced about it. I understand your prior background through this forum but I also note a tendency where you imply quite often that the law enforcement officer is the final say in things. I learned all too quickly through a work experience with a co-worker that until something goes through a complete trial and conviction that its not over.
 

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No not at all my relatives or any affiliation to the previous people that you referenced about it. I understand your prior background through this forum but I also note a tendency where you imply quite often that the law enforcement officer is the final say in things. I learned all too quickly through a work experience with a co-worker that until something goes through a complete trial and conviction that its not over.
No the conviction has not happened yet, it will, I know more about this case than you do. Right now their lawyers are probably preparing an offer for a plea bargain I hope it is not accepted. When someone stomps and beats a law enforcement officer after they sucker punched him and then take his weapon they need to go to prison, for a long time, a real long time and they need to emerge as felons.
 

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if these guys get a slap on the wrist it will send a message, a dangerous message that if you assault a LEO you wont get much additional time. this whole thing started becuase these slime balls thought they could do as they please. when confronted and knew they were going to get a fine, they were willing to assault this Officer and even stomp on his head, that is deadly force. they were willing to kill in order to get away and not pay a simple fine.


i have dealt with this type of slime ball over a 33 year career of a babysitting thugs. its babysitting because all they are is over grown adolescents that have never grown up, they just happen to be bigger and dangerous. they all have the same attitude too. they can do as they please to who ever they want and its suppose to be OK, but do something to them or someone they know and they want you dead.



put me on the jury, i can be impartial and listen to the facts.
 
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