Read that on my news page , there certainly are some crazies out there.
My guess as well knowing the area. Thing is, I have friends who hunt and ride there.Birch812 said:This most likey was put there by a hunter who got tired of scouting, hiking in and setting up only to have idiot's come racing in and screwing up his hunt.
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x2 - wear gloves - make sure fingerprints do not adhere to tack strip....Birch812 said:It's a money saving venture from the PGC.
The tack strip are a lot cheaper then gates on the trail entrances plus you can move them around.![]()
Never cold see how the gates were designed to keep out ATV's and dirt bikes anyhow, cars yes but they leave to much open area next to them to keep someone from getting around them.
This most likey was put there by a hunter who got tired of scouting, hiking in and setting up only to have idiot's come racing in and screwing up his hunt.
Don't feel sorry one bit for someone suffering damage to tires...they don't belong there.
I do feel bad for the unsuspecting hiker or hunter or dog that walks on them.
Children can you say Punji Stick?
x3, I'd guess you are spot on. Doesn't make it proper, but if someone higher up isn't going to address the problems, people will and have been taking the law into their own hands.HD1969 said:x2 - wear gloves - make sure fingerprints do not adhere to tack strip....Birch812 said:It's a money saving venture from the PGC.
The tack strip are a lot cheaper then gates on the trail entrances plus you can move them around.![]()
Never cold see how the gates were designed to keep out ATV's and dirt bikes anyhow, cars yes but they leave to much open area next to them to keep someone from getting around them.
This most likey was put there by a hunter who got tired of scouting, hiking in and setting up only to have idiot's come racing in and screwing up his hunt.
Don't feel sorry one bit for someone suffering damage to tires...they don't belong there.
I do feel bad for the unsuspecting hiker or hunter or dog that walks on them.
Children can you say Punji Stick?
Depends on the area - if it is far back enough - no kids to worry about.Phantom_geo said:And what if a child steps on it, or grand child? It's stupid on so many levels. Is it private property or owned by the common wealth?
It's owned by the common wealth of Pennsylvania and open to the public. Causing harm to another cannot be tolerated and the individual should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for endangering public safety. Ruining someone's hunt is very minor to deliberately hurting someone who very well may have nothing do with the issue in any way, like a child
You admit to placing spikes on SGL's?HD1969 said:Depends on the area - if it is far back enough - no kids to worry about.Phantom_geo said:And what if a child steps on it, or grand child? It's stupid on so many levels. Is it private property or owned by the common wealth?
It's owned by the common wealth of Pennsylvania and open to the public. Causing harm to another cannot be tolerated and the individual should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for endangering public safety. Ruining someone's hunt is very minor to deliberately hurting someone who very well may have nothing do with the issue in any way, like a child
several years ago - ATVers were doing a real trash job in my area, including ripping up and eroding native brookie streams. That was last straw for a few of us locals.
Big Landscape spikes solved most of the problem - until the PGC finally got agressive after they discovered the amount of damage on the SGL and put the hammer down on the remaining miscreant joy riders via nighttime stake-outs (pun intended).
Tough Luck Karma.
I may be wrong but I thought mountain biking was only allowed on designated trails marked open to bicyclists on game lands?jkhunter said:What about somebody riding a mountain bike which is perfectly legal on SGL's?
I believe you are right, unless while lawfully hunting I'm pretty sure you can go anywhere.dpms said:I may be wrong but I thought mountain biking was only allowed on designated trails marked open to bicyclists on game lands?jkhunter said:What about somebody riding a mountain bike which is perfectly legal on SGL's?
Exactly, my point. If someone is into hunting to a degree that would hurt someone.......well they need help. Hunting is a sport to be enjoyed not to cause others harm.psychobeagle12 said:Yeah, sounds like a great solution to me. "Oh, you scared away my deer, here, take possible bodily harm, dismemberment, and death because I DIDN'T GET TO KILL A BUCK!!" You know what, that attitude is just as bad as the people who are riding back there unwelcome and illegally. Those kinds of devices can cause serious injuries and death, so because your hunting area has a few tire tracks in it you are going to go ahead and risk manslaughter? I'm sorry, I don't think it's right of the people riding the quads or dirt bikes either, but that is a bad attitude. For as much crap as I hear going on around here about having respect for your fellow person, it sure doesn't seem to apply when, God forbid, someone interrupts your deer hunt.