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It's a money saving venture from the PGC.
The tack strip are a lot cheaper then gates on the trail entrances plus you can move them around.

Never cold see how the gates were designed to keep out ATV's and dirt bikes anyhow, cars yes but they leave to much open area next to them to keep someone from getting around them.

This most likey was put there by a hunter who got tired of scouting, hiking in and setting up only to have idiot's come racing in and screwing up his hunt.
Don't feel sorry one bit for someone suffering damage to tires...they don't belong there.
I do feel bad for the unsuspecting hiker or hunter or dog that walks on them.
Children can you say Punji Stick?
 

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Birch812 said:
This most likey was put there by a hunter who got tired of scouting, hiking in and setting up only to have idiot's come racing in and screwing up his hunt.
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My guess as well knowing the area. Thing is, I have friends who hunt and ride there.
 

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Birch812 said:
It's a money saving venture from the PGC.
The tack strip are a lot cheaper then gates on the trail entrances plus you can move them around.

Never cold see how the gates were designed to keep out ATV's and dirt bikes anyhow, cars yes but they leave to much open area next to them to keep someone from getting around them.

This most likey was put there by a hunter who got tired of scouting, hiking in and setting up only to have idiot's come racing in and screwing up his hunt.
Don't feel sorry one bit for someone suffering damage to tires...they don't belong there.
I do feel bad for the unsuspecting hiker or hunter or dog that walks on them.
Children can you say Punji Stick?
x2 - wear gloves - make sure fingerprints do not adhere to tack strip....
 

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HD1969 said:
Birch812 said:
It's a money saving venture from the PGC.
The tack strip are a lot cheaper then gates on the trail entrances plus you can move them around.

Never cold see how the gates were designed to keep out ATV's and dirt bikes anyhow, cars yes but they leave to much open area next to them to keep someone from getting around them.

This most likey was put there by a hunter who got tired of scouting, hiking in and setting up only to have idiot's come racing in and screwing up his hunt.
Don't feel sorry one bit for someone suffering damage to tires...they don't belong there.
I do feel bad for the unsuspecting hiker or hunter or dog that walks on them.
Children can you say Punji Stick?
x2 - wear gloves - make sure fingerprints do not adhere to tack strip....
x3, I'd guess you are spot on. Doesn't make it proper, but if someone higher up isn't going to address the problems, people will and have been taking the law into their own hands.
 

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And what if a child steps on it, or grand child? It's stupid on so many levels. Is it private property or owned by the common wealth?

It's owned by the common wealth of Pennsylvania and open to the public. Causing harm to another cannot be tolerated and the individual should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for endangering public safety. Ruining someone's hunt is very minor to deliberately hurting someone who very well may have nothing do with the issue in any way, like a child
 

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probably ECO terrorists. when they built a highway extension in Erie County they set fire to the construction equipment and a mink farm in the area.
 

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Another possibility is a youth center/camp adjoining the SGL. One year scouting for turkeys I found a car flipped over and trashed back in jeep trail on another neighboring property. Turns out is was stolen locally a few weeks earlier, just never found. Ran into one of the center's counselors in the days afterwards while listening for turks before work. I told him about the car and he said it was probably some of his kids.

Who knows though....
 

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And what if a child steps on it, or grand child? It's stupid on so many levels. Is it private property or owned by the common wealth?

It's owned by the common wealth of Pennsylvania and open to the public. Causing harm to another cannot be tolerated and the individual should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for endangering public safety. Ruining someone's hunt is very minor to deliberately hurting someone who very well may have nothing do with the issue in any way, like a child
Depends on the area - if it is far back enough - no kids to worry about.

several years ago - ATVers were doing a real trash job in my area, including ripping up and eroding native brookie streams. That was last straw for a few of us locals.

Big Landscape spikes solved most of the problem - until the PGC finally got agressive after they discovered the amount of damage on the SGL and put the hammer down on the remaining miscreant joy riders via nighttime stake-outs (pun intended).

Tough Luck Karma.
 

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Yeah, sounds like a great solution to me. "Oh, you scared away my deer, here, take possible bodily harm, dismemberment, and death because I DIDN'T GET TO KILL A BUCK!!" You know what, that attitude is just as bad as the people who are riding back there unwelcome and illegally. Those kinds of devices can cause serious injuries and death, so because your hunting area has a few tire tracks in it you are going to go ahead and risk manslaughter? I'm sorry, I don't think it's right of the people riding the quads or dirt bikes either, but that is a bad attitude. For as much crap as I hear going on around here about having respect for your fellow person, it sure doesn't seem to apply when, God forbid, someone interrupts your deer hunt.
 

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What about somebody riding a mountain bike which is perfectly legal on SGL's? Some people just don't think about the consequences of their actions. All for what?
 

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HD1969 said:
Phantom_geo said:
And what if a child steps on it, or grand child? It's stupid on so many levels. Is it private property or owned by the common wealth?

It's owned by the common wealth of Pennsylvania and open to the public. Causing harm to another cannot be tolerated and the individual should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for endangering public safety. Ruining someone's hunt is very minor to deliberately hurting someone who very well may have nothing do with the issue in any way, like a child
Depends on the area - if it is far back enough - no kids to worry about.

several years ago - ATVers were doing a real trash job in my area, including ripping up and eroding native brookie streams. That was last straw for a few of us locals.

Big Landscape spikes solved most of the problem - until the PGC finally got agressive after they discovered the amount of damage on the SGL and put the hammer down on the remaining miscreant joy riders via nighttime stake-outs (pun intended).

Tough Luck Karma.
You admit to placing spikes on SGL's?
 

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Is this a trend? Last year a similar report @ spike strips set up in the Frederick City Watershed (MD)- it's open for hunting, bike riding, horseback riding, etc. Somebody was putting spike strips on the more remote trails mountain bikers use. My kids and I hike back there often. I'd love to find who does this kind of thing & beat them w/one of their own spike strips.

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jkhunter said:
What about somebody riding a mountain bike which is perfectly legal on SGL's?
I may be wrong but I thought mountain biking was only allowed on designated trails marked open to bicyclists on game lands?
 

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BH, but don't you know, haven't you heard? It's all ok if it's well off the trails and they are spooking your deer. You can just do whatever you want 'cuz killing a big buck is more important than a person's life or well-being.
 

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jkhunter said:
What about somebody riding a mountain bike which is perfectly legal on SGL's?
I may be wrong but I thought mountain biking was only allowed on designated trails marked open to bicyclists on game lands?
I believe you are right, unless while lawfully hunting I'm pretty sure you can go anywhere.
 

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Yeah, sounds like a great solution to me. "Oh, you scared away my deer, here, take possible bodily harm, dismemberment, and death because I DIDN'T GET TO KILL A BUCK!!" You know what, that attitude is just as bad as the people who are riding back there unwelcome and illegally. Those kinds of devices can cause serious injuries and death, so because your hunting area has a few tire tracks in it you are going to go ahead and risk manslaughter? I'm sorry, I don't think it's right of the people riding the quads or dirt bikes either, but that is a bad attitude. For as much crap as I hear going on around here about having respect for your fellow person, it sure doesn't seem to apply when, God forbid, someone interrupts your deer hunt.
Exactly, my point. If someone is into hunting to a degree that would hurt someone.......well they need help. Hunting is a sport to be enjoyed not to cause others harm.
 
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