[Buckg2]

Hi all,
I picked my daughter up a seemly slightly used Pa pellet. Yesterday trying to sight it in, I could not get it to group. Shots on the left were from the pa pellet, shots on the right are from my Hawkins at 50 yards. We started both guns with 70 grains 777 with round balls just for fun and practice. Then 80 grains 777 and round balls. Then 80 grains 777 and Hornady sst 250 sabots. Then 80 grains goex 3f and sst sabots. As you can see my gun on the right held pretty good groups no matter what combination. The pa was all over the place. We moved the sights here and there, but it would never really form any group. Any suggestions? Heavy sabots? More powder? Thanks

 

[Buckskin Dave]

What is the rate of twist in that rifle? If its 1 in 48 or slower it should shoot patched round ball's okay. What size round balls are you shooting? if its 490 you may want to use 495's. How thick is your patch? Most 1 in 48 twist rifles do okay with a 490 ball and a .015 patch but some don't. If its a fast twist you will need power belt bullets or sabots. Check that rate first. If it is a slow twist drop back to 60 grains of FFF and see where it goes. Then try a 495 ball. How do your patches look? Holes burned in them? Getting any blow by?

 

[410-er]

80 gr of FFg
.490-.495 RB
.015-.018 patch
Groups should be less than 1 1/2" at 50 yrd.

DSCF2249 by t410er, on Flickr

 

[pappybear]

I had two 50 cal. Traditions PA Pellet. Both shot very consistent and accurately using the factory recommended load of 100grain pyrodex pellets (2-50 gr.) topped with 240grain Hornady .44 cal. XTP with the green sabots.They are 1/48 twist.

 

[Ruttin N' Guttin]

As said above, I have had the best success with my Pellet shooting the pyrodex and sabots. I have never tried the roundball/patch combo because I haven't really needed to based on my groupings. If you can't get a good group, I'd give that a shot and see what happens.

 

[Buckg2]

Thanks for the help. After another 30 or so shots with different combos of things mentioned above, I returned the gun to well known muzzleloader shop I purchased it from. They treated me like gold for a full refund and I purchased a new Lyman deerstalker. The owner said he would monkey with it and see what he could come up with.

 

[325wsm]

Thanks for the help. After another 30 or so shots with different combos of things mentioned above, I returned the gun to well known muzzleloader shop I purchased it from. They treated me like gold for a full refund and I purchased a new Lyman deerstalker. The owner said he would monkey with it and see what he could come up with.

Now that sounds like a stand up guy, I would love to deal with someone like that, were was the shop?

 

[Buckg2]

It was RMC. I'm lucky enough to live just down the road.

 

[Loggy]

Sounds like the sight was moving or gun had an unnoticeable slight barrel bulge. Glad they took care of you.

 

[brubincam]

I was also thinking sights might not be tightened down tight
I once had a CVA (same outfit) and the rear sight was a new fangled box type rear sight and was a loose configeration in the sight itself

 

[BuckskinMtnMan]

Why in the world would anyone want to struggle using T7 in a flintlock? Sure its "designed" to work better with it possibly, but still very terrible idea to use that junk.



Don't expect the lyman to do any better with that stuff!

 

[BBB]

Both of mine shoot 2 White Hot pellets and a 240 Hornaday with the black Sabot Better than I can shoot open sights at 100 Yards

 

[Brianpa40]

My Pa pellet shot very well then one day it started throwing shots all over. It was the cheap plastic sights loosened up so I put a set of V-peeps on it from RMC and they are great. Shot my first deer with it yesterday. I'm using Goex 3f and a .490 ball with a .18 patch for the first shot then .15 patch after that.

 

[pallyking]

Mine shoots great with 2 50gr pellets and hornady sabots.

 

[Jethro15]

BrianPA40, how many grains are you shooting? I have been tinkering with using FFF. Thx.

 

[Brianpa40]

jethro15 I'm using 80grs. I was at 75grs.But I still have some tinkering to do next year. I found the round ball on the far side just under the hide and it was flat and still weighs 174.6gr. I don't like pass through shots like most people because I want the bullet to release all of it's energy in the animal (more shock). oh and it was a neck hit not where I was trying to hit but did the job.

 

[CHECKSTER]

Mine also shoots 2 , 777 pellets, and a Hornady SST sabot quite well.
No issues with the gun, only the shooter.