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I didn't shoot a deer last year. I didn't see anything I wanted to kill even though I had tags for three different units. The grandkids kept me busy and "there was no more room at the inn".
you mentioned Brown and down mentality for Pa hunters. I have to agree with you. But yet the AR enthusiast on here say the majority of Pa hunters are in favor of AR. I really find that hard to believe.the buck to doe ratio they envisioned when this whole thing took effect never happened. we were suppose to shoot the big mature does and let the smaller antlerless deer go that would save all the button bucks, thats why they increased the "doe" seasons and instituted HR efforts. kill more doe let the bucks grow.
never happened because PA is mostly a "brown and down" state, we love our venison to much to let a deer walk away.
maybe where you hunt. the two farms i hunt i have seen several groups of deer walk out in fields. 10 or more all doe or maybe a shed buck or button buck but no noticeable antlers. even driving around with good light about an hour before dark, counted over 50 deer, no noticeable bucks and this is over miles of driving, lots of different properties.I'd say the buck:doe ratio is way more even now. 1980s and 1990s you'd see 20 doe before you see a buck. Now I feel like it's more of a 50:50 shot at whether the deer walking by will be a buck or a doe. Time in the field has shown this as well as trail cameras and a backyard feeder.
I LOVE bear meat. It is my favorite game meat. I've had whitetail, mule deer pronghorn, caribou, moose and bear. Bear wins it over all of those.I don't need a trophy bear, I just want some bear meat. You can't eat the years of age on a bear, MEat, MEat, MEat.
I can only speak for the guys I've talked to - and heard in conversations in various places - talking about loving the bigger racks walking around since AR. I've heard, "I've shot lots of small bucks before, but I like having the chance to take a big one these days. Don't really want to shoot more little ones." (and similar comments) in a number of places.you mentioned Brown and down mentality for Pa hunters. I have to agree with you. But yet the AR enthusiast on here say the majority of Pa hunters are in favor of AR. I really find that hard to believe.
Have no desire to shoot a small cub bear of its mom just for meat because I have a tag. You can shoot them all day long if you have the opportunity and enjoy yourself. Me could never think the way you do. I will stick with ribeyeCubs taste the best too.
A year and a half old bear is not a cub. Not at all what I'm referring to. I'm talking about cub born that year in the den and killed that fall. That is a cub, less than a year old. You aren't shooting a year and half old bear (a yearling) unless you're spring bear hunting (which I did in New Brunswick at age 13, killed a yearling in the month of June.) I'm not elitist just ethical and intentionally shooting cubs and fawns is not ethical to me. I don't shoot button bucks or any running big game either.Guys think shooting a year and a half old buck is ok because they have a tag and want to fill it, a year and half old cub is taboo though, why the double standard?
Would never shoot a 1.5 year old buck also. to each their own.Guys think shooting a year and a half old buck is ok because they have a tag and want to fill it, a year and half old cub is taboo though, why the double standard?
Some of the legally harvested Bears posted and at check stations don't look any bigger than Cubs.I have no respect for shooting cubs.
Re-read the thread, your a sharp guy, you might understand.Would never shoot a 1.5 year old buck also. to each their own.
Re read and you may understand. You a sharp guyRe-read the thread, your a sharp guy, you might understand.