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are Republicans really going to fall on their swords to protect millionaires, half of whom live in Hollywood and vote democratic anyway?
~ Bill Kristol Weekly Standard editor

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onservative Knives Are Out for Bill Kristol After He Tells Fox News it ‘Won’t Kill the Country’ to Raise Taxes on Rich
Appearing on Fox News Sunday to talk post-election politics, Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol informed the other members of his panel it was time to face reality and give the people what they want.

"Four presidents in the last century have won 50 percent of the vote twice: Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Reagan, and Obama," the influential neocon said. "It pains me to say that, to put him in with those other three, but it's a fact. Democrats picked up seats in the House and the Senate. The president is in good shape."

Recognizing the self-evident — that "elections have consequences" — Kristol went on to suggest that perhaps it was time for the Republican Party and the conservative movement writ large to "pull back, let people float new ideas."

Like, say, raising taxes on the rich: "Let's have a serious debate. Don't scream and yell when one person says, ‘You know what? It won't kill the country if we raise taxes a little bit on millionaires.' It really won't, I don't think."

Breitbart and other conservative outlets were quick to go after Kristol for daring to suggest the smallest possible addendum to the status quo: Taking new ideas into consideration.

"Bill Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard, is looking for someone to whom to surrender," writes Joel Pollak. "And so is much of the Republican establishment, so desperate to hold onto positions of influence that they are willing to abandon the newly-confirmed House majority and a bedrock Republican principle for the last two decades."

That "newly confirmed House majority" was elected with half-a-million fewer votes than the Democratic minority thanks to extensive gerrymandering, and even House speaker John Boehner was forced to acknowledge that the GOP "lost badly" and had to avoid "nasty showdowns."

But that's hardly any reason to abandon immutability in the face of facts, is it?
http://gawker.com/5959749/conservative-k...e-taxes-on-rich
 

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He's right in a way, not about raising taxes on the rich but all of sitting down and saying I'm not a democrat I'm not a republican, were Americans. We are all created equal and therefore should all equally pay. Get rid of all taxes and have one flat tax. Eliminate the IRS and tax refunds, and get rid of unecessary programs (not defense). It would be a heck of a start if they could sit down and actually accomplish something.
 

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The Republican party will have to also sit down and rewrite their platform before anybody believes this new leaf they are trying to turn over!!
 

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Sounds to me like we'll be a one party government from now on.....Socialist
 

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Gotta read the threads on here. We're already socialists. The real conservatives here are abandoning Teddy Roosevelt( supported progressive taxation), Ronald Reagan because he gave amnesty to illegals, started the free "Bama phones with his lifeline program, he started the low income housing credits, he raised taxes and ran huge deficits. Next up Dubya with his prescription drug benefit and doubling of the child tax credit(started by Ford and this is the single largest contributor to the 47%). It's crazy all this time I thought some, at least one of them were heroes of the conservative movement.
 
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