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"of Covid" and "with Covid" are two very different things. As of now George Floyd is a "Covid death".
 

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How do they know that the cases they're discovering in the population by doing testing now are actually "New" cases, and not just old cases from six months ago? With so many people being asymptomatic there's really no telling when they got the virus. The tests can only show that the people have the antibodies, not whether they're new or old cases.
 

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Yeah, it's all BS.
Evidence is mounting that states are either completely inept in their daily counting, or are intentionally fudging the numbers up.
Just look to the current shenanigans in FL for example, a full order of magnitude over-reporting because someone at the state is moving decimal points on positive rates...

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Also, don't forget, total "cases" can only climb... it'll never go down. And when they count positive antibody tests (recovered) the same as active virus positives, the "cases" number becomes meaningless.
The US has performed the most tests, it's obvious and expected that we will find the most "positive" individuals.
What isn't mentioned, likely by design, is that if we have a higher percentage of positive cases than nations that did not take similar draconian preventative measures, it speaks VOLUMES to the ineffectiveness of said measures....
 

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So now we have perhaps 1% of the population confirmed infected. Initial estimates were that 50% or more would become infected. I think we were also told that the virus is more contagious than the flu. Considering anywhere from 5-20% of people get the flu each season I'd say only 1% having Covid-19 so far is pretty good.
 

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State records continue to fall for new cases, hospitalizations State records continue to fall for new cases, hospitalizations
Worst affected? That's not the truth. If other countries tested like we have, you'd find lots of 'positive' folks that didn't know they had it just as we see here. And then they'd mix the anti-body positives with the active cases like we have as well. It's a numbers game is all and the US has perfected it to keep the fear porn addicts such as yourself happy.
 

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Those 135,000 dead don’t care about a 99 percent survival rate and neither do their families. Also, the trumpvirus has infected over 3 million Americans. Who knows what the long term effects will be on those people. Maybe both of those numbers would be lower with some real leadership coming out of Washington, instead of the “I take no responsibility” leadership we have right now. Btw, I use the term leadership very loosely in this case.

I can just imagine what you guys would be saying if Obama handled this pandemic the same way trump handled it. You’d be saying he did a great job, right? 😂
 

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And dont forget that to get to that number of confirmed cases there have been millions of tests performed. Testing capacity is way beyond what it was back in April.

Increased capacity supports contact tracing. In the beginning, a person who was exposed but no symptoms may not have been tested. They just self isolated for a week and if no symptoms, good to go.

Now they know there are asymptomatic carriers, and with more testing available, they can test more of the contacts faster. So cases and positivity go up a bit because you are honing in on flare ups.

Kind of exactly like Dr. Birx described long ago when she said testing everyone is not required to reopen. You test more, but you also test smarter.

So now we are just better at finding what has been there all along.

Its like when Fukishima plants blew up in Japan. Htsteria couple weeks later RADIATION FOUND IN MILK IN WASHINGTON STATE!!!!!!! My gosh, we will all die from nuclear fallout! Close those plants!

Uh, did you ever look for trace amounts of radiation in the milk before? Uh, no. Do you realize you are looking downwind of the Hanford DoD site for nuclear weapons? Uh, no. Hmmmmmmm.

Covid-19 is not a good thing. But it is not the bubonic plague either. A little common sense goes a long way, but that is in shorter supply than TP and N95 masks.

Depending on your beliefs, God or Nature did not design humans to be isolated creatures. Our immune systems are interconnected with the natural world and each other.

Its taken something that required some initial drastic actions to get back in front of it, and now requires diligence in paying close attention to so you can react quickly and stay in front of it, into something that is spun into a reason for perpetual panic and fear.
 

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Those 135,000 dead don’t care about a 99 percent survival rate and neither do their families. Also, the trumpvirus has infected over 3 million Americans. Who knows what the long term effects will be on those people. Maybe both of those numbers would be lower with some real leadership coming out of Washington, instead of the “I take no responsibility” leadership we have right now. Btw, I use the term leadership very loosely in this case.

I can just imagine what you guys would be saying if Obama handled this pandemic the same way trump handled it. You’d be saying he did a great job, right? 😂
Not only "would be lower", but in fact both are lower. You could most likely cut the deaths in half to arrive a bit closer to the actual number of deaths from this virus. And that's not some conspiracy, it's been widely publicized just how skewed the numbers are... heck, the health "professionals" practically brag about it.
 

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So, if Obama handled the pandemic the exact same way trump handled it, said the exact same things, you guys would be defending Obama the exact same way you’re defending trump. Correct?
 

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Those 135,000 dead don’t care about a 99 percent survival rate and neither do their families. Also, the trumpvirus has infected over 3 million Americans. Who knows what the long term effects will be on those people. Maybe both of those numbers would be lower with some real leadership coming out of Washington, instead of the “I take no responsibility” leadership we have right now. Btw, I use the term leadership very loosely in this case.

I can just imagine what you guys would be saying if Obama handled this pandemic the same way trump handled it. You’d be saying he did a great job, right? 😂
You must be a real joy at parties...
Are kung flu deaths more tragic than car crash deaths? Than cancer deaths? Heart disease? Leukemia? Falls? Homicide?
You trust numbers released by the same people who MURDERED elderly nursing home residents by ORDERING the facilities to take in sick, infected, terminal patients rather than allow them to remain in approved facilities equipped to handle them... just so they could inflate the death toll to serve their own agenda... How'd that "leadership" work out for you? Oh, no, it's the Orange Man's fault 5 democrat Governors did that too, right?

I don't doubt for a second that 0bama would've have gone 10x further than the most restrictive Governor did.. Not that he would have had the Constitutional authority to do so (remember that whole bit about Federalism and States' Rights, etc.) Wouldn't surprise me if he'd instituted Martial Law.... The man jumped at every opportunity to infringe on rights and redistribute wealth.
But it's all moot. Your team has a 3.75 year track record at this point of doing and saying everything possible, no matter how contradictory and fictitious, including projection your own actions upon him, in vain attempts to make Trump look bad.

We're past that now. We see your side's lies, cheating, and manipulation.

Reckoning is coming in November.
 

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So, if Obama handled the pandemic the exact same way trump handled it, said the exact same things, you guys would be defending Obama the exact same way you’re defending trump. Correct?
You are funny. What does Obama have to do with the "Trump virus" as you so call it?

Intersting that you don't think it's political while calling it the "Trump virus".
 
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