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With liitle going on in the way of sports, the NFL is full steam ahead. If there is to be a season in the fall, no sense delaying it a month. Every team has the same challenges in this first ever "virtual draft".

Even if you aren't real into the draft, its a welcome distraction in these times.

Assuming most HPA members are fans of the Six Time Super Bowl Champion Steelers, or the Eagles. But easily could have some Bills Mafia or fans of the G-Men, or J-E-T-S.

Who is your team, what do you think they will do and what would you like them to do?

My team should be obvious, and with no #1 pick the first night will be anti-climatic barring a total blockbuster trade. But that pick is Minkah Fitzpatrick so no complaints.

I think depth at ILB is the main concern with this roster, but at #49 they can't afford to reach.

Not sold on the idea of a RB at 49. Not unless there is someone who slides. Going to be different with an experienced QB there and not having ten in the box. I'd roll with Conner/Snell/Samuels, with Watt added as FB.

With no glaring needs, but lots of places to add young talent, go with best-available on the board. Interior O line would not be sexy but might provide the best value.

Hey, how about Tagovailoa scoring "13" on the Wonderlic? Thats gotta concern some teams.
 

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Pats fan since '69.....I'll wait for the heckling to stop. Tua at QB. I hope he lasts long enough for the Pats to have a chance at him....looks like he might. Will Bill trade up for the chance??? And if they do get him, always a little doubt about the hip. I think Tua and Belichick would be a good fit.

They need to get a Gronk replacement (or at least someone half as good).....Cole Kmet, TE from ND might work here.
 

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Belechik would have the inside scoop on Tua, with the Saban connection.

If that would happen, the conspiracy theories about the Pats being favored would abound.

And why on Earth would you let that affliction stay untreated since 1969? Counseling and meds didn't work?
 

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And why on Earth would you let that affliction stay untreated since 1969? Counseling and meds didn't work?
The stuff I deleted from your post, I will not address, as I agree with the deleted portion.

Like most bad habits, I have no idea where it all started. I only know it grew into an obsession as I advanced through my teen years. John Hannah had much to do with my penchant for Patriot play no doubt, as I admire good line work, and none was better than his. As I matured the obsession subsided, but I stuck around around anyhow....and was rewarded for years of dedication with B &B. That era is now over, but I can't jump ship now.:smile2:
 

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There is going to be a bunch of good OTs up for grabs in this draft....not something that happens often. I'm betting the first round will be heavy with OT picks.
 

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SKOL VIKINGS! 2 first round picks should be interesting. I see either CB, CB zimmer loves taking CB first rd or trading back for more picks, Im happy with either, run first team and I see even more of it this year, I dont see them picking wr in first 2 rds
 

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With little going on in the way of sports, the NFL is full steam ahead. If there is to be a season in the fall, no sense delaying it a month. Every team has the same challenges in this first ever "virtual draft".

Even if you aren't really into the draft, it’s a welcome distraction in these times.

Assuming most HPA members are fans of the Six Time Super Bowl Champion Steelers, or the Eagles. But easily could have some Bills Mafia or fans of the G-Men, or J-E-T-S.

Who is your team; what do you think they will do and what would you like them to do?

My team should be obvious, and with no #1 pick the first night will be anti-climatic barring a total blockbuster trade. But that pick is Minkah Fitzpatrick so no complaints.

I think depth at ILB is the main concern with this roster, but at #49 they can't afford to reach.

Not sold on the idea of a RB at 49. Not unless there is someone who slides. Going to be different with an experienced QB there and not having ten in the box. I'd roll with Conner/Snell/Samuels, with Watt added as FB.

With no glaring needs, but lots of places to add young talent, go with best-available on the board. Interior O line would not be sexy but might provide the best value.

Hey, how about Tagovailoa scoring "13" on the Wonderlic? That’s gotta concern some teams.
As I’ve been saying, Steelers fans should ignore what some of the national media are projecting. They shouldn’t (and won’t) use their 2nd or 3rd round pick on a QB. Franchise QBs are almost always first round picks and they don’t have one until next year. Forget about them trading up into the first round. They don’t have the picks to do it. I doubt they will trade down either.

The Steelers have several needs, particularly on offense. They need a deep threat WR. This is supposed to be one of best WR classes ever.

They could use interior OL, but this is supposed to be a weak draft for interior OL. It is supposed to be a very good class for OTs. Villanueva’s contract is up next year and he will likely not be resigned.

I’m not a big proponent of them taking a RB either. I don’t see Taylor or Dobbins falling that far. Akers might be worth a pick.

On defense, they need to replace Hargrave, which they can probably do with a 3rd or 4th round pick.

Otherwise on defense, they need depth. I agree that ILB depth is sorely needed. Matekevich is easily replaced but Barron’s role will be more difficult.

I’m not sold on Ola or Skipper being solid backups at OLB. I expect Dupree to leave as a FA next year but I think they will probably draft his replacement then.

They really need depth at safety. Dangerfield and Allen are special teams players, not reliable backups.


For the Patriots to get Tua, they’ll have to trade up, which I doubt they will do.
 

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I'm really looking to see if the Steelers will pick Jalen Hurts in the third round. Poor Rudolph.....
That would be a waste of a pick. Hurts will be an NFL backup. He’s not a franchise QB. Franchise QBs are first rounders not thirds. There is one franchise QB in the NFL right now who was a 3rd rounder: Russell Wilson. Hurts is overrated. He had to transfer to go somewhere he could start. He’s not Lamar Jackson, not even close.
 

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As I’ve been saying, Steelers fans should ignore what some of the national media are projecting. They shouldn’t (and won’t) use their 2nd or 3rd round pick on a QB. Franchise QBs are almost always first round picks and they don’t have one until next year. Forget about them trading up into the first round. They don’t have the picks to do it. I doubt they will trade down either.

The Steelers have several needs, particularly on offense. They need a deep threat WR. This is supposed to be one of best WR classes ever.

They could use interior OL, but this is supposed to be a weak draft for interior OL. It is supposed to be a very good class for OTs. Villanueva’s contract is up next year and he will likely not be resigned.

I’m not a big proponent of them taking a RB either. I don’t see Taylor or Dobbins falling that far. Akers might be worth a pick.

On defense, they need to replace Hargrave, which they can probably do with a 3rd or 4th round pick.

Otherwise on defense, they need depth. I agree that ILB depth is sorely needed. Matekevich is easily replaced but Barron’s role will be more difficult.

I’m not sold on Ola or Skipper being solid backups at OLB. I expect Dupree to leave as a FA next year but I think they will probably draft his replacement then.

They really need depth at safety. Dangerfield and Allen are special teams players, not reliable backups.


For the Patriots to get Tua, they’ll have to trade up, which I doubt they will do.
I have a feeling Ben will struggle this year, he struggled 2 years ago, didn't look good at all. Steelers had a great run but I see them struggling for a while. I do like Conner but they just used him to much last year and he was hurting by end of year, they need to use committee
 

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I have a feeling Ben will struggle this year, he struggled 2 years ago, didn't look good at all. Steelers had a great run but I see them struggling for a while. I do like Conner but they just used him to much last year and he was hurting by end of year, they need to use committee
If ben STRUGGLES to get 5000 yards like he did 2 years ago i will take that.
 

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If ben STRUGGLES to get 5000 yards like he did 2 years ago i will take that.
Struggled with mobilty, hes already the most immobile QB in league. Most sacked QB in league and on pace to be most sacked QB ever. and now repaired arm. He wont make it the whole year
 

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Struggled with mobilty, hes already the most immobile QB in league. Most sacked QB in league and on pace to be most sacked QB ever. and now repaired arm. He wont make it the whole year
Ben was sacked 24 times in 2018. Russell wilson is a mobile qb who was sacked 51 times in the same year
 

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I hope they don't waste the pick on a QB.
Agreed. Ben is under contract for 2 more years. Taking a QB when they have more urgent needs would be a waste. Their next franchise QB will not come from this draft. Their next true franchise QB will almost certainly be a first round pick in a future year.

And they aren’t going to sign Winston or Newton as free agents, nor should they. The Steelers don’t have the cap room to sign either of them. Neither would be willing to be a backup anyway. Newton has also been injury prone. Winston is a turnover machine. They aren’t going to trade for Dalton or sign him if the Bengals cut him. Same reasons: can’t afford him plus he wants to start.

Ben was sacked a lot in the 2007-2010 range when the Steelers had a poor offensive line. He has not been sacked as much in recent years.

I don’t expect Ben to be better than ever, but he will be better than anybody they could get in the draft.
 

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That would be a waste of a pick. Hurts will be an NFL backup. He’s not a franchise QB. Franchise QBs are first rounders not thirds. There is one franchise QB in the NFL right now who was a 3rd rounder: Russell Wilson. Hurts is overrated. He had to transfer to go somewhere he could start. He’s not Lamar Jackson, not even close.
You may be right. But the Steelers will be making a big mistake if they rely on Ben remaining healthy. If he gets banged up, they will be in the same boat as last year....a pretty good team with no QB.

Wait until next year and go for Lawrence, I guess.....

I don't know how you are defining franchise QB, but Brady went in the 6th round.....
 

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That would be a waste of a pick. Hurts will be an NFL backup. He’s not a franchise QB. Franchise QBs are first rounders not thirds. There is one franchise QB in the NFL right now who was a 3rd rounder: Russell Wilson. Hurts is overrated. He had to transfer to go somewhere he could start. He’s not Lamar Jackson, not even close.
You may be right. But the Steelers will be making a big mistake if they rely on Ben remaining healthy. If he gets banged up, they will be in the same boat as last year....a pretty good team with no QB.

Wait until next year and go for Lawrence, I guess.....

I don't know how you are defining franchise QB, but Brady went in the 6th round.....
People bring up Brady is if getting a franchise QB in the late rounds is easy. That is one instance where a team got a franchise QB in the sixth round. Expecting to get a franchise QB in the 6th round is like relying on winning the lottery to fund your retirement. Most sixth round picks don’t even make the team. Things have changed a lot since Brady was drafted. QBs are more often than not overdrafted now.

Since 2000, 46 QBs have been drafted in the 6th round. As mentioned before, exactly one became a franchise QB. One (Marc Bulger) had a pretty good career but I wouldn’t call him a franchise QB. Almost all the rest had very brief NFL careers.

Lawrence will be drafted in the first round long before the Steelers will draft. He will likely go in the top five. The Steelers won’t be that bad, even if Ben is hurt.

Anyone the Steelers could get in this draft will not be a play right away starter, so all they would be drafting is another backup, in other words, wasting a pick. And they can’t afford to bring in a veteran free agent QB. Their cap situation won’t allow it.
 
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