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i'm thinking of my next deer rifle. i'm looking at short action and old reliable calibers. i'm looking at 2 different ones. ones the common 308 i know it kicks like a mule but has a large aray of factory ammo and one thats kind of fading out. the 250 savage or 250-3000. any ideas out there on these two?
 

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Cartridge ([email protected]) Rifle Weight, Recoil energy, Recoil velocity
.250 Savage (100 at 2900) 7.5, 7.8, 8.2
.308 Win. (150 at 2800) 7.5, 15.8, 11.7
.308 Win. (165 at 2700) 7.5, 18.1, 12.5
twice the recoil
 

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The shooter today has more options today than any other time in history. Only 20 years ago if you wanted low recoil rounds you needed to be a reloader, today several ammo manufacturers sell factory low recoil ammo, From your post I take it you are not, Not saying the 250 3000 is obsolete, but I think you will have trouble walking into Wal Mart and buying a box, I do not own one but the 243 seems to be the hot new Deer rifle and with its low recoil and Ammo seems plentiful, I would take a look at it.
 

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Cartridge ([email protected]) Rifle Weight, Recoil energy, Recoil velocity
.250 Savage (100 at 2900) 7.5, 7.8, 8.2
.308 Win. (150 at 2800) 7.5, 15.8, 11.7
.308 Win. (165 at 2700) 7.5, 18.1, 12.5
twice the recoil
You are comparing it to a .250 savage which is extremely mild recoil. Very few shooters I know would go as far as saying the .308 kicks like a mule! It makes most folks short lists of excellent cartridges for youth and women hunters who are more recoil sensitive, not to mention it's well known reputation for accuracy has a lot to do with the relatively mild recoil combined with excellent ballistics. .308 is an EXCELLENT choice for a deer rifle. It will kill deer with boring regularity!
 

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My dad has a Ruger M77(tang safety) Ultra Light Carbine....it kicks as hard or harder than any 30-06 I've ever shot! I don't know if it's just the lightweight or the stock design or the hot loads or what, but that rifle will punish you.

That said, the 308 GENERALLY isn't a heavy recoiling round out of most rifles.

Of the two listed I'd go for the 250.....simply because it's different. My next rifle will be one of three in not particular order:

Browning A-bolt Micro Hunter in 7mm-08 Rem
Browning A-bolt Micro Medallion in 284 Win
Ruger No. 1 International in 7x57 Mauser
 

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We are living in a great era for the firearm industry except the prices. today we have un real options especially with optics and bullets. IMo i dont care for the 308 i have a 25-3000 ai nice caliber even in standard chambering but agree factory ammo could be tough to find. i would choose for a pa. deer caliber if you want devasting killing effects, light weight, light recoil it would be the 260 and factory ammo is popular.
 

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I think that in order to answer this new mule question, one needs to ponder, "how hard does a mule actually kick?"
 

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Some mules must not kick too hard. I know my horse dropped me to the ground with a single kick once. I never had a rifle do that.
 

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308 in the ruger ultra light would be my choice if i was buying another 308 bolt gun. recoil may be a little harsh cause its light but not too bad.
 

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"two listed I'd go for the 250". I'm confused. the 250 savage is the same as the 250-3000. a great choice. If you think that the 308 kicks like a mule...then It does kick like a mule. Closed case.

the 250 Savage is a good deer gun and works for varmints as well. It is better for deer than the 243. Get the 250 and you will shoot great and kill every deer you hit properly.
go for it.
 

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I own both. Like both of them. Usually just shot the 250 on the range, although quite a few folks have them around here. Use one of the 308's as my main deer gun. Both will kill a deer graveyard dead. I like the 308 in case of quartering away shots with 165 grain bullets. I do not handload, and the main thing is inexpensive ammo for practice, and a wide variety of excellent factory loads.
 

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if recoil is an issue, but you want to retain excellent ballistics, go with a 26 caliber. ie 260 or 6.5x55 swede. both of these calibers will shoot lights out even at extreme ranges especially with the quality 6.5 bullets available.
 
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