[brewyak]

"Flintlock ignition, single-barrel long gun, 44 caliber or larger, or 50 caliber or larger handgun, using single projectile ammunition. It is unlawful to use telescopic sights. Peep sights are permitted.
Now I remmember in the past their was a year listed that the flinters had to be a reproduction or orginal. Which under that line of the old regs it would not have allowed guns such as TC's firestorm or any other flintlock with a plastic stock or stainless hardware, in fact a Hawkin reproduction would have not technically be allowed to hunt with because if I remember right they were caplock

 

[turkey4life]

ive seen lots of flinters in late season with plastic stocks, must be theres a pretty fine line between an acceptable reproduction and a new style flintlock with a stainless barrel and all of the goods.

 

[brewyak]

True but what they did by eliminating the year, don't remember if someone here has a book from last year, is close a hole in the regs. If they were to actually inforce the old regs then the stainless guns, with the plastic stocks and other flinters that you commonly see would not be legal to hunt with

 

[mountainman09]

letin peep sites be legal this year is just opening the door for a lot trouble whats next open sites inlines wait lazer sites i think it a bad move should have left it iron sites to many changes not enough hunting

 

[tundragriz]

Peep sights have been legal. Not sure when but the notched iron sight requirement was removed some time ago.

 

[Loggy]

brewyak...been that way for quite a few years. I know 6-7 years ago I toted a tc firestorm. i think that wording was even before they allowed conicals instead of just the prb.

 

[brewyak]

I could swear that in last years book there was a reg that had a date. But I know the PGC has not inforced it

 

[tundragriz]

Last year's book says "manufactured prior to 1800 or a similar reproduction".

 

[brewyak]

thanks,
I knew that it was something like that. So that would make most people who use a flinter legal

 

[bob1961]

as long as it stays flintlock only season then any flintlock should be legal

.........bob

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[zimmerstutzen]

I just tried to find the statute and couldn't. The PGC has never towed the line and complied with the statute as to what flintlocks were legal for use in PA. They let darn near any flintlock in regardless of whether it was a pre 1800 design long gun por not. Technically those pistol grip, ryanite stcks and short flit carbines should never have been permitted. But don't expect a gov't agency to comply with the letter of the law unless they want to bust chops on a citizen. On how many other areas do they say it is the law we must enforce it, yet as to the flinters they ignored the letter of the law for 30 years.

 

[brewyak]

Thanks Zimm,
it is the point I was trying to prove. there is a rule change and that might affect the future

 

[Sidney Smith]

The PGC isn't going to lose thousands of hunting dollars by enforcing the letter of the law with regards to flintlock types. Do you know how many people would be affected if they enforced the pre1800 wordage?

As for me, as long as its a flintlock, and must use black powder poured down the muzzle, that's fine with me. Lets just make sure they don't change anything to include inlines into our special season.

 

[Beartrppr]

Title 58 141.43 (b) 1 still stipulates the 1800 date.

 

[Guest]

I wonder if that ever was enforced? We have been using T/C Hawkens since the first season.

 

[brewyak]

That's what I was getting at, they can change the wording all they want, and yes it would not make sence to enforce the pre1800 law, I just don't want them to mess with anything else.

 

[Beartrppr]

Ya have to be reasonable and look at the spirit of the law and not get too technical. Common sense my friends.

 

[Varmintmist]

There is the rub though.

If you dont get technical, some folks take liberties with the spirit.

Common sense would be a lot eaiser to grasp if it was still PRB only instead of a blank slate.

 

[long hunter]

Most people don't know what a pre 1800 flintlock longrifle looks like. I doubt the ones who wrote the law had a clue.
Pre 1800 would exclude all production guns that I can think of. TC, Lyman, CVA, Invest Arms all post 1800.

 

[Grantman]

I hunted the second year that PA had a flintlock season-on state game lands only. I used a TC Hawken, equpped with tang peep and front globe sights. Load was 90 grains of FFFg under a home poured 370 grain maxi-ball. All of the above were legal then. The peep sights and conicals were legal for several years.