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300 win mag is a great do everything cartridge for this side of Africa.
Like Stetam weight is a issue. I like a 300 mag to weigh in at about 9 pounds with scope/sling/mount. Also like the 24 inch barrel on any magnum....or I'd not buy a magnum and get a standard round and a lighter shorter rifle.
Like Stetam weight is a issue. I like a 300 mag to weigh in at about 9 pounds with scope/sling/mount. Also like the 24 inch barrel on any magnum....or I'd not buy a magnum and get a standard round and a lighter shorter rifle.
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More than a pound. Depends on the scope and rings.
I wouldn't worry about the weight. You'll never notice the recoil on game and you ain't exactly buying a target rifle.
I wouldn't worry about the weight. You'll never notice the recoil on game and you ain't exactly buying a target rifle.
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If it were me, I'd by one of these: http://www.winchesterguns.com/products/catalog/detail.asp?family=001C&mid=535108
No plastic parts on this one and its a little heavier if your worried.
No plastic parts on this one and its a little heavier if your worried.
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figure 12 -16 oz for a decent scope. get steel bases and rings, figure another 4-6 oz. Sling with loops 6-8 oz.
Never seen a plastic part on my Tikka break, but I've seen the bottom of the pistol grip on my father's wood Weatherby stock come off.HighCountry66 said:
Not trying to be a smart guy, I just see lots of people dragging "plastic parts" through the mud and I have yet to see a reason why FUNCTIONALITY wise. I too think wood is "prettier" but for me, plastic is more functional.
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Well I think he's looking at a wood stock anyway.
But the bolt shroud is made of plastic also, and if you type "tikka t3 plastic bolt shroud" into a google search you should find some reading on why it isn't a really great idea.
But the bolt shroud is made of plastic also, and if you type "tikka t3 plastic bolt shroud" into a google search you should find some reading on why it isn't a really great idea.
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I really don't think he was critiaca of a syn stock. the Tika is a very low end Sako. It is filled with plastic parts 9probably nylon); the bolt shroud , trigger guaard, magazine, and the filler screws in the mounting holes are some of the "plastic Parts" for starts. Some manufacturers use plastic for the trigger guard, and the magazine follower; OK but not a quality firearm. Tika goes beyond all others in use of plastic parts.
Yes, plastic might be OK; yes Tika has had plastic problems; but it really isn't the sign of a quality firearm.
I suspect cost and the desire to shave a few ounces off the advertized weight is the reason.
Yes, plastic might be OK; yes Tika has had plastic problems; but it really isn't the sign of a quality firearm.
I suspect cost and the desire to shave a few ounces off the advertized weight is the reason.
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Cost would be the driving factor.....weight being a byproduct. Injection molding is very cost effective. Trouble is, so is powdered metal....why they didn't go that route is beyond me. Aside from the stock the switch from plastic to metal would only ad a few ounces to the weight. The plastic is what kept me from buying one a few years back....mostly the magazine.Harrysigafoo said:
Calling a Tikka a low end Sako is not a good comparison(and incorrect). A Tikka is not a low end Sako. It is a completely different rifle. And a completely different action. Sako builds an action the proper length for a cartridge. Tikka builds one action length and a bolt stop. A Tikka is in no way a Sako.
The word "composite" has replaced the word plastic because the word plastic has a negative connotation. If you want a rifle with plastic on it, then by all means buy it. But plastic is not for me. IMO it has ZERO place on a reliable, functioning hunting rifle. Just my opinion. But I will pass on the Tikka. However there are Sako's in my safe. Tom.
The word "composite" has replaced the word plastic because the word plastic has a negative connotation. If you want a rifle with plastic on it, then by all means buy it. But plastic is not for me. IMO it has ZERO place on a reliable, functioning hunting rifle. Just my opinion. But I will pass on the Tikka. However there are Sako's in my safe. Tom.
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HH I have sakos in my gun room also. the old L-61, L579s.
But Tikka has common ownership and has been sold as the "low end Sako" for years. Most gun shops will tell buyers, it is the "less finished" Sako.
Actually, I've not like the new Sako rifles for the last 10 years or so. Remingtons and Rugers are better firearms.
But Tikka has common ownership and has been sold as the "low end Sako" for years. Most gun shops will tell buyers, it is the "less finished" Sako.
Actually, I've not like the new Sako rifles for the last 10 years or so. Remingtons and Rugers are better firearms.
General Motors owns Cadillac and Chevrolet. So they have common ownerhip. And yes they may even share a few parts. But a comparison between the two would be incorrect IMO.
If the Tikka and Sako shared the same action then I would agree to a comparison. But the actions are night and day different. I do understand that there is some barrel sharing(not positive about that). But using the same barrel makes sense when mfr. costs are considered.
I see your point. And will concede a bit on your point. But I really believe there are major differences between the two. Kind of like Cadillac and Chevy.
And I do agree with you about the new Sako's. I like their older ones with nice walnut better myself. Tom.
If the Tikka and Sako shared the same action then I would agree to a comparison. But the actions are night and day different. I do understand that there is some barrel sharing(not positive about that). But using the same barrel makes sense when mfr. costs are considered.
I see your point. And will concede a bit on your point. But I really believe there are major differences between the two. Kind of like Cadillac and Chevy.
And I do agree with you about the new Sako's. I like their older ones with nice walnut better myself. Tom.
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