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I have an old adjustable powder measuring cylinder but there are no markings on it indicating what its volume is in the closed position or what each increment indicates. Did a few searches and it looks like these vary on the starting point but mostly have 10 grain increments. I have also read that an empty 30.06 casing will hold close to 90 grains. Anyone else heard of this or have any other tricks so i can get a baseline? Its for a TC HAWKEN .50 cal that i hope to be barkin fire with this afternoon!
 

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I doubt an 06 case holds 90 though. I load mine to 56 grains and thats a compressed load with the bullets I use. Doubt theres room for another 34 grains in the neck.
if you really get in a pinch, I can go fill one with 2f and measure it.
 

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Thanks for the link...that chart shows 69 grains of water. I do have a scale that measures in grains but its for food plus i think i read that a grain volume measurement and a grain weight measurement are different. I have an empty casing so im gonna fill it up and see if i get close to 70 assuming it starts at 40.
 

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After filling the .06 casing and dumping it in the measuring stick it was almost flush with the top when 2 clicks out. I'm left to assume that its either 50gr closed with 10gr clicks or 60gr closed with 5gr clicks. Im going to go with the 50gr closed. Most guys seem to be shooting 70-90 so this should get me in the ballpark.
 

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Well you peaked my interest. I filled an 06 case with 2f and dumped it in my powder measure. It was just about exactly 70 grains!
 

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I believe I know the powder measure you got. Sounds like mine. All the way in is 50 grains of powder and each click you pull out is 10 grains. I pull mine out 3 clicks and shoot 80 grains in my smokepole. Good luck hunting..
 

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i was just looking this up wondering the same thing. i couldnt remember the measuring lines either. i think i went two or three lines. gonna double check with a plastic one and mark the lines next time
 

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I got this from The Firing Line Forum. Numbers at end of line are volume.

14 Hornet 12
.17 Hornet 14
.17 Rem 27
.204 Ruger 33
.22 Hornet 14
.22 K-Hornet 15
.218 Bee 18
.22 Rem Jet 18
.221 Rem 21
.222 Rem 27
.223 Rem 31
.222 Rem Mag 32
5.6x50R 34
.219 Zipper 34
.225 Win 41
.22-250 Rem 43
.220 Swift 48
.223 WSSM 53
.22-06 65
.22-15 Stevens 17
.22 Sav 35
6x47 33
6x52R Bret. 36
6x70R 39
.243 Win 54
6 Rem 55
.240 Wea Mag 65
6x62R 67
.236 USN 51
.240 Fl. N.E. 58
.25-20 WCF 19
.256 Win 22
.25-21 Stevens 25
.25-25 Stevens 29
.25-36 Marlin 37
.25-35 WCF 37
.25 Rem 42
.250 Sav 46
.257 Roberts 56
.25-06 Rem 66
.257 Wea Mag 84
6.5x70R 39
6.5 Jap. 48
6.5x52 Carcano 49
6.5x53R 49
6.5x54 M-S(.256) 50
.260 Rem 53
6.5x55 57
6.5x57(R) 58
6.5 Rem Mag 68
.264 Win Mag 82
.270 REN 16
.270 Win 68
.270 Wea 83
.28-30 Stevens 37
7-30 Waters 45
7x72R 54
7-08 Rem 56
7x57(R) Mauser 59
.284 Win 66
.280 Rem 67
7x65R 68
7 WSM 81
7 Rem Mag 84
.30 Carbine 21
.30-357 AeT 25
.30-30 45
.30 Rem 46
.303 Sav 48
.300 Sav 52
.307 Win 54
7.62 NATO 54
.308 Win 56
.30 Fl.NE Purdey 58
.30-40 U.S. 58
.30-06 U.S. 69
.300 H&H 86
.300 Win Mag 89
.30 Fl. H&H 90
.300 Wea Mag 99
.30-378 130
7.62x54R 64
.303 Brit 57
.375/303 W-R 62
.32-20 WCF 22
7.65 Mauser 58
8x72R 59
.32-40 Ballard 41
8x50R Lebel 66
8x57(R) Mauser 62
8-06 70
8 Rem Mag 98
.318 W-R 69
.333 Jeffery 86
.33 WCF 63
.338-06 70
.338 Win Mag 86
.340 Wea Mag 98
.338-378 132
.348 Win 75
9x57(R) Mauser 62
.357 Mag 27
.357 Max 34
.357/44 B&D 35
.400/350 Rigby 78
.350 ME Guide 2 49
.35 Rem 51
.356 Win 57
.358 Win 57
.35 WCF 69
.35 Whelen 71
.35 Greevy 72
.350 Rem Mag 73
.358 Norma Mag 88
9.3x57 Mauser 64
9.3x54R Finn. 65
9.3x72R 67
9.3x62 77
9.3x74R 82
.360 No.2 NE 111
.375 Win 49
.38-56 Win 62
.375 2½ N.E. 67
.375-06 73
.375 H&H 95
.375 Fl. Mag 97
.375 Ruger 100
.369 N.E. 102
.378 Wea Mag 136
.38-55 Ballard 52
.38-72 Win 74
.38-40 WCF 40
.400 Whelen 75
.405 Win 78
.400 Jeffery 117
.450/400 NE 3¼ 123
.416 Taylor 92
.416 Rem Mag 107
.416 Rigby 130
.416 Wea Mag 134
.423 OKH 77
.404 Jeffery 113
.44-40 WCF 40
.44 Spl 34
.44 Rem Mag 39
.444 Marlin 69
.45 Colt 42
.454 Casull 47
.45-70 U.S. 79
.450 Marlin 74
.45-90 2.4" 90
.458 Win Mag 94
.458 Lott 108
.450 3¼ N.E. 129
.460 Wea Mag 140
.465 N.E. 144
.470 N.E. 146
.475 3¼ N.E. 137
.50-110 109
.50 BMG 293
 

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I understand that the old timers would put a ball in their hand.Powder would be poured over the top of the ball till it was covered.That was the charge!
 

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Not sure what the link or table above are supposed to be, but they are way off from the weight of black powder in grains. I can get 90 grains of powder into a 45-90 and still seat a bullet in the case. I can get 70 grains into a 45-70 and still have room to seat a bullet. (Perhaps not all the way, but for my trapdoor I load to 45-90 OAL)

A 44-40 will hold 40 grains of powder AND still seat a 230 grain bullet. Dixie Gun works has a cartridge case powder measure-volume table for black powder for reference in the back of the catelog. Yes a 30.06 case holds 70 grains. a 30-30 case holds only 42 grains.
 
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