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What a joke. What does this really say about their own fan support? A bunch of sore LOSERS!
 

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Now you know how Steeler fans have been treated for years. And Steeler fans don't have the sort of reputation as Philly fans have earned.
 

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I dont blame them. I wouldn't want those obnoxious people dirtying up my stadium either.
 

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Why would a fan of their team want any fan from another team in their stadium? You act like people should just accept you Philly fans everywhere. Too bad. It's not a slight against Philly fans. They just don't want the opposing team having any support in THEIR stadium. Get over yourself.
 

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In the Nationals case, they're going to have an empty stadium if they block sales to opposing teams' fans. They're even worse than the Buccos
 

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Danesdad said:
I dont blame them. I wouldn't want those obnoxious people dirtying up my stadium either.
WOW! You own a stadium? Not many people own stadiums. What is the name of your stadium?
 

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On August 20, 2011 the Nationals set their all time attendance record of 44,685. Guess who the opposing team was?
 

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On August 20, 2011 the Nationals set their all time attendance record of 44,685. Guess who the opposing team was?
They likely set their record for most arrests in one game that night, too. I understand what the Nationals are trying to do, however, might I present a different solution. Try doing what the Steelers do. Put an awesome team on the field, be good to your own fans, and listen to what they want. Following this formula, the Steelers have been able to sell out all of their home games since the early 70s. Do other fans show up? Sure, but nobody can hear the 50 who do.
 

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The point is, the nationals have no hope of selling out their stadium by their own. They have virtually zero hope of selling it out to any other team. When they phillies are in town, they have their best chance of selling it out because no fan base in baseball travels like the phillies. Its really pretty silly to see their ownership (and for the record, dennis) get all upset over it. You either except that nationals park will always be citzens bank south or you except that you'll be looking at a bunch of empty seats. seems like they've gone with the latter.

btw they didn't block ticket sales entirely, they're just letting nationals fans get first crack at the may 4-6 series and encouraging them to buy up to 8 seats. phillies fans will most likely later be buying those seats on stub hub for below face value.
 

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I'd really like proof of your statement that Philly fans travel better than any other baseball fans. They travel well to Pittsburgh and Washington sure. But I'd like you to provide me with some evidence vefore I believe they travel better than any other team.
 

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They likely set their record for most arrests in one game that night, too

Really? And where is proof of your statement?
 

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couldn't care less if you believe me. i'm confident my day will not be ruined.
 

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dc 21 said:
Danesdad said:
I dont blame them. I wouldn't want those obnoxious people dirtying up my stadium either.
WOW! You own a stadium? Not many people own stadiums. What is the name of your stadium?
Actually, I own it. I let him rent it. Its for sale BTW. I'll make you a sweetheart of a deal on it.
 

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I don't know if there is a fool proof way to tell which baseball fans travel the most but here is a story with some comments after. I know the Red Sox and Yankees fans travel alot.


Phillies Fans Willing to Travel
We’re not only filling our own park, we’re breaking records in others
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Growing up, my friends and I would con one of our dads into taking a whole minivan of us down to the Vet to watch the Phils. The dads would sit up in the 700 level, and the Vet was so empty they could watch as our gaggle of boys in Scott Rolen shirts (I know—it’s painful for me, too) roamed the walkways just beyond the outfield wall eating Phillies Franks and heckling David Justice. So, sights like last night’s Cubs game still amaze me. Now, we’re not just selling out CBP—we’re filling parks in other cities.

Last night, Phils fans made their way in droves to Wrigley’s infamous outfield bleachers. The camera panned over the stands and—while the ratio certainly wasn’t equal—the Phillies definitely had a fan presence at the ballpark. It’ll likely be the same for the rest of the series. It won’t stop there and it didn’t begin there, either.

The Phillies have always had a big showing at Nationals Park in D.C. That’s partly attributed to the fact that the Nats suck and partly attributed to the close proximity of Washington. But, the message is still clear—Phils fans love their team and are willing to travel to see them.

Over Memorial Day weekend, the Phils played a series in D.C. that spurred as much conversation about Phils fans in the Metro-area as it did about Werth playing his former team. A Nats home run was even tossed back onto the field in their own park. Then, a few weeks ago the Phils traveled to the other half of Pennsylvania to take on the (now in first place—yes, really) Pittsburgh Pirates. The Buccos saw their park turn to red for the weekend. Additionally, their attendance figures were through the roof. The Saturday night game was the largest crowd for a Pirates game PNC Park has ever seen and the series touts the fourth-highest attendance of any three-game series in the park’s brief history. If the season ended today, the Phils would play the Pirates in the first round of the playoffs. Most Phils fans would probably have a better shot at landing tickets in the Burgh than in South Philly.

When I was in high school the first thing I’d do when I woke up during the summer was check the forecast because—if it was nice—chances were that I was going to shuffle my work schedule around so that I could drive down to Pattison Avenue and buy tickets for that night’s Phils game. I didn’t need a season-ticket plan or a parking pass—just $15 for a decent seat beyond the left field wall. Now, CBP is sold out every night, rain, shine, sleet or locusts. And sure, that can be frustrating when you’re trying to get your hands on tickets for a Mets game on a Friday. But, what it really means is that things are good. When the Phils were just another team on the fringe of relevance anyone could get tickets at Citizens Bank Park and no one was hopping on the Turnpike to catch a game way across Pennsylvania.

The point is that not only are the Phillies relevant in Philadelphia—now they matter everywhere. Organizations look forward to having the Phils come to town because it means big attendance numbers. And Phils fans seem to like having a reason to do some domestic traveling.

They say there’s no place like home but—with the Phils fans showing up at parks all over the Northeast, I doubt Charlie and company will be clicking their red spikes together anytime soon.


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Guillermo K Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 10:22 pm

You’ve got me up for a road trip! Another good read Michael.


Steve K. Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 2:58 pm

Friend of mine (philly native) lives in Seattle. Went to the recent series there. Told me it was a “sea of red” all the way out in the Pacific Northwest. Go Fightin’s…


tracy Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 6:05 pm

I am soooo thankful that my parents kept a season ticket plan, now I know I can get to at least a couple of games.


TedH Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 6:28 pm

I lived in San Diego the last 4 plus years. Last year the Phils were in for a weekend series in late August and the Padres were in first place. Friday night was 30% Phillies fans, Saturday was 40% and Sunday was nearly 50%. So it is not just the East Coast. BTW, the Phillies swept and it was a blast. Glad to be back in Phliiy[/quote]
 

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Phillies have the highest avg attendance for all games played, home and road. 39,200 in 2011. that either means that by some miracle of summer home fans at dismal places like pnc park suddenly give a crap or phillies fans come out and drive attendance up.
 

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Dan Castle said:
Phillies have the highest avg attendance for all games played, home and road. 39,200 in 2011. that either means that by some miracle of summer home fans at dismal places like pnc park suddenly give a crap or phillies fans come out and drive attendance up.
I should hope so. They don't play very many small market teams. When you play a majority of your games in large markets, you're going to have a higher average attendance. That being said, they did travel well to Pittsburgh last year.
 

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I should hope so. They don't play very many small market teams. When you play a majority of your games in large markets, you're going to have a higher average attendance.

They play the teams on their schedule. Point is that their fans travel to opposing cities and more fans(both teams) come because they want to see good teams play and good pitchers pitch.
 

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I can't believe no one has pointed out forum rules require a price be listed for items to be sold.
 
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