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one that im not shooting ....
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Lots of accurate flinters out there.
You can get one custom made, or can buy an old T/C Renegade or Hawkin.
Lyman is producing some of the best production flintlocks today
You can get one custom made, or can buy an old T/C Renegade or Hawkin.
Lyman is producing some of the best production flintlocks today
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Don't know bout all that,but i'm buyin a lyman deerstalker,and it will be my most accurate!Glenn18 said:
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As far as caliber,I'd say the 40 but its not legal for deer.
If you are shooting RB's in a production gun,you aren't going to beat the Lyman Great Plains Rifle(1:66-60).
If you are going to use conicals,then the Lyman Great Plains Hunter(1:28).
Thompson Center(1:48 twist)with RB's give good hunting accuracy of about 1 1/2" groups at 50 yds.
Then you can go CUSTOM for over $1000.
If you are shooting RB's in a production gun,you aren't going to beat the Lyman Great Plains Rifle(1:66-60).
If you are going to use conicals,then the Lyman Great Plains Hunter(1:28).
Thompson Center(1:48 twist)with RB's give good hunting accuracy of about 1 1/2" groups at 50 yds.
Then you can go CUSTOM for over $1000.
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Glenn-----I would like to off you this---if you are will to spend $$ on a production gun doesnt it make sense to wait a tad bit longer and spend a few more $$ to have a builder build you a gun that will be a Cadillac----I wish I had this advise given to me so as to save the 400 plus spent on my Lyman. I did like my Lyman and still do however there is no comparrison between the two guns....A Rice, Getz, Ryal, Green Mountain barrel and a Siler or L and R lock
does make a BIG difference---Others here please chime in if you agree or disagree.
does make a BIG difference---Others here please chime in if you agree or disagree.
Yup I agree. But if you are into it I do have a TC renegade 50cal that I could give you a good price on. The only reason I want to sell it is because I have a Lyman that I like and I just ordered a custom flinter from Cabincreek and want to use that money for my new one
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spent over $600.00 on my 2nd gun bought a poor boy buy dixie gun works should have save a little more. cooperstowntrading post is building my new one. its up to you on what you want the lyman is a great gun
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Glenn, the most accurate flintlock, would be a very expensive thing with a custom false muzzle barrel and sights that cost in the hundreds of dollars. Definitely not a hunting gun.
If you mean a reasonably priced production gun available at a gun shop in a box, I'd say Lyman Greeat Plains rifle is probably the best production flint gun out there.
If you could find an old flintlock CVA Mountain rifle, it will have a more accurate shooting barrel than any current production gun.
TC is a good overall gun, but they have some problems with their flintlocks.
An Italian InvestArms Hawken style gun, as sold by many mail order outfits, is a close second to the Lyman.
A hunting gun serves a different purpose and really isn't capable of the fine accuracy for international Muzzleloading competition.
Bunky, Loggy and Mccoy are so very right about a custom gun with a premium barrel, perfectly engineered lock and a stock made to fit an individual instead of a production gun made for a range of statisticly average persons. A custom gun can be made to fit you in cast off, drop and pull. A production line is more interested in using the planks they get the best deal on, rather than best fit.
If you mean a reasonably priced production gun available at a gun shop in a box, I'd say Lyman Greeat Plains rifle is probably the best production flint gun out there.
If you could find an old flintlock CVA Mountain rifle, it will have a more accurate shooting barrel than any current production gun.
TC is a good overall gun, but they have some problems with their flintlocks.
An Italian InvestArms Hawken style gun, as sold by many mail order outfits, is a close second to the Lyman.
A hunting gun serves a different purpose and really isn't capable of the fine accuracy for international Muzzleloading competition.
Bunky, Loggy and Mccoy are so very right about a custom gun with a premium barrel, perfectly engineered lock and a stock made to fit an individual instead of a production gun made for a range of statisticly average persons. A custom gun can be made to fit you in cast off, drop and pull. A production line is more interested in using the planks they get the best deal on, rather than best fit.
i really like my lymans great plains... here is some info tht you might like reading http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQY/is_11_53/ai_n20512668/?tag=content;col1
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Lyman and T/C are a good choice,If you are close to Dixon's muzzleloader shop,they can be of great help to you,Remember the Flintlock is only as accuate as the person behind it and how much time you spend on the range getting use to it and finding the right load for it.
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Cabelas hawken rifles have the same barrel manufactuer as Lyman. I shot beside a guy at the range a couple weeks ago that was shooting a Lyman, and his had all the same markings as my cabelas hawken. Not sure of the model of his. It was about the same size as my gun. He was shooting 240 pa conicals, and I was shooting 200 gr 44 mag sabot's. We were both able to get about the same accuracy. I was getting around 2" at 50, and he was getting a little more than that. I would tend to think it was the shooter and not the gun. No. I'm not patting myself on the back. He was having some issues.zimmerstutzen said:
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