Man 17 I wish Tim would cut these things loose! Everyone's getting crazy waiting on these.They are now what? 2-3 months past due? I'm sure they will be worth the wait just as everything the Caven's put out.
What's really killing me is they are talking about releasing the #2 dogless after getting feedback from the #3.
I would dump a few hundred dollars on some baseplated, dogless #2's.
That is the kind of dogless pan I like. That thing is going to be tight.