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I am looking for a new Deer Rifle for myself but at the same time, it is going to be a gun that my 4-year-old daughter can grow into. I shot a model 700 Remington, 7mm rem mag. As a young child, I had a hard time putting bullets on paper due to the recoil, but never noticed the 7mm rem mag kick when a deer was in the cross hairs.

I am looking for a low recoil rifle (something bigger than a .243)…thinking about the 7mm-08. I want to be able to swap the stock from a youth stock to an adult stock or an adult stock to a youth stock without having an issue with barrel weight (thinking 22 inch). Right now, I do not think it matter to me if the barrel is blued or stainless, if the adult stock is wood, but want a synthetic youth stock. I want a drop plat to remove bullets or a removable clip; I do not want to chamber mutable rounds to clear the gun.

The only thing I can find that gives me 2 stocks is the Howa M1500 2 N 1 combo pack….I cannot find a vender that makes a youth stock that fits a “adult length barrel”.

Would anybody have any good ideas?
 

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you might consider a Remington Model 7 youth then add 1" recoil pad to it for your LOP then put the original back on for her. Works well for us. Also, you can buy a Boyds drop-in stock for it when she's ready to move up.

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The Vanguard Synthetic Youth has a spacer that allows you to adjust the LOP from 12 1/2" to 13 5/8". It also has a 20" barrel which should balance better for a child and shouldn't hinder you too much with a 7mm-08.
 

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MarkPSU said:
you might consider a Remington Model 7 youth then add 1" recoil pad to it for your LOP then put the original back on for her. Works well for us. Also, you can buy a Boyds drop-in stock for it when she's ready to move up.

Mark
Great idea and in a 260cal.
 

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MarkPSU said:
you might consider a Remington Model 7 youth then add 1" recoil pad to it for your LOP then put the original back on for her. Works well for us. Also, you can buy a Boyds drop-in stock for it when she's ready to move up.

Mark
Great idea and in a 260cal.
I will third the model 7. You can pick up the youth model and buy a factory remington synthetic adult stock for I believe around $110. I have a model 7 and love it.

I have the 260 and its a great caliber that has more knockdown power than 243 but less kick than a 308 or 7mm 08. The only thing it is missing is it has a 20 inch barrel instead of the 22 you stated.
 

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I am looking for something similar for my youngest. I would love a 260 but they are tough to find without spending a fortune. More than likely gonna end up with the Vanguard in 7-08 or .243.

The 260 is on my short list though if one pops up!!!
 

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All of my rifles are Remingtons. That being said, I vote for the weatherby. I am just not sure about the quality standards of the new owners of big green. I know of guys that have had issues with ammo that were never there before,so I don't know if I would take a chance on a bigger purchase such as a rifle. I hope I am wrong. As far as caliber choice, I have never shot a 7mm-08 or a 260, but since they are born from a 308,and the bullet weights are similiar, would they kick much less than a 308? I have been looking at ammo prices and 308's are a lot cheaper to shoot.
 

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get a 308 and use reduced recoil rounds when the kid uses the rifle. then they can use regular rounds as they grow. in the mean time you have a great caliber that will kill anything in PA. the tikka T3 is a great gun, better than rems now.
 

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RIZ said:
get a 308 and use reduced recoil rounds when the kid uses the rifle. then they can use regular rounds as they grow. in the mean time you have a great caliber that will kill anything in PA. the tikka T3 is a great gun, better than rems now.
The Tikka T3 was better before too!
 

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EVERYBODY,
Thank you!

For some reason i can not make up my mind, so i have been asking everybody i know for their 2 cents...

i am thinking of the 7mm-08 because if i reload i only have to buy 7mm bullets and use them for my 7mm mag and the new 7mm-08...but i know i would want to have different sizes for different reasons.

i just can not put my fingure on the gun i want so everybods input is very helpful.

Thank yinz again....yes i said yinz...and yes i am from the Pittsburgh area...i don't know what happened to the Steelers last night...may become a Browns fan now!
 

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Dont get a 7mm08 unless your ground hog hunting.

Go on pennswoods.com, find a 760 pump in 3006 carbine...$350 and your set (has clip). Or if you want bolts the savage or marlin guns that are cheap (dont use their scopes) shoot quarters too.

No offense to anyone, i dont get the go small movement of how little gun do i need to kill. 3006 only does small amt of damage, but leaves room for operator error. (i have 250, 300 win, 300 sav, 270, 338 Rum and i carry 760 for deer, its light, accurate, and kills)
 

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Dont get a 7mm08 unless your ground hog hunting.

Go on pennswoods.com, find a 760 pump in 3006 carbine...$350 and your set (has clip). Or if you want bolts the savage or marlin guns that are cheap (dont use their scopes) shoot quarters too.

No offense to anyone, i dont get the go small movement of how little gun do i need to kill. 3006 only does small amt of damage, but leaves room for operator error. (i have 250, 300 win, 300 sav, 270, 338 Rum and i carry 760 for deer, its light, accurate, and kills)
Better you than me, my friend. I personally wouldn't dream of trying to take down a whitetail with out controlled round feed rifle in at least .33 caliber.

That might be a first... 7mm isn't enough for deer? You should look into what a fellow named Bell did with a 7x57.
 

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When I say enough...i factor in operator error. The average schmoe who sights in his gun Thanksgiving and is a hunter come monday, sees a deer running through the woods and opens up like john wayne. In a perfect world people make good shots and deer die. In pa, the woods are littered with mistakes now. A 3006 give room for operator error is what I am saying.

And yes i personally have seen my buddy (against my advice) hit deer right behind shoulder and not recover.
 

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i personally have many rifles but always go back to the 3006 its the only cal. that gives you so many bullet choices without reloading from the 55 grain accel. to the heavy 220 grain and many in between and now they have reduced recoil which even my 11 year old daughter can shoot
 

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Outlaw12385 said:
Dont get a 7mm08 unless your ground hog hunting.

Go on pennswoods.com, find a 760 pump in 3006 carbine...$350 and your set (has clip). Or if you want bolts the savage or marlin guns that are cheap (dont use their scopes) shoot quarters too.

No offense to anyone, i dont get the go small movement of how little gun do i need to kill. 3006 only does small amt of damage, but leaves room for operator error. (i have 250, 300 win, 300 sav, 270, 338 Rum and i carry 760 for deer, its light, accurate, and kills)



Ahh macho-ism at its finest. I've killed deer with 30/06, 270 and 7mm-08. All 3 killed deer stone dead with one shot



Fact is 6mm (.24 in) and up will kill deer easily
 

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Outlaw12385 said:
Dont get a 7mm08 unless your ground hog hunting.

Go on pennswoods.com, find a 760 pump in 3006 carbine...$350 and your set (has clip). Or if you want bolts the savage or marlin guns that are cheap (dont use their scopes) shoot quarters too.

No offense to anyone, i dont get the go small movement of how little gun do i need to kill. 3006 only does small amt of damage, but leaves room for operator error. (i have 250, 300 win, 300 sav, 270, 338 Rum and i carry 760 for deer, its light, accurate, and kills)
I am rolling around laughing at this...I owned a 30-06 and killed 4 deer with it all vital shots...everyone ran 50+ yards...My 260 is a freaking killing machine. I have shot 3 deer with and everyone was dead on the spot. It is absolutely incredible. I shoot they fall.

To the original poster...7mm 08 is a fine caliber I dont know your price range but you can pick up a Remmy Model 7 synthetic for around 550. Also look for an older used Remingotn 700 in 7mm 08 they are out there.
 

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Baker's dozen of deer calibers for PA, imo. All can kill em stone cold and each shine in certain situations





6mm Rem

243 Win

257 Roberts

25-06 Rem

6.5x55 Swede

260 Rem

270 Win

280 Rem

30/06

308 Win

7mm-08

7 mm

30/30
 
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