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Just bought a used Lowe Roughneck after years since I had to sell my other. I don't have a concealed carry permit yet, let's just say I wanted to take a shotgun or a rifle along boating for protection, Is this legal? Thanks in advance!
 

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I know you can on a 4 -wheeler as long as it's unloaded going to your spot on private property ,but I don't know about a boat . check with the game commission and fish commission or your local police department for clarification to stay legal and out of trouble
 

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Thanks bud, hard to find info on this. I'll see what I can find out. Too many nutcases out there these days unfortunately.
 

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Thanks bud, hard to find info on this. I'll see what I can find out. Too many nutcases out there these days unfortunately.

Nutcases? I thought you were worried about pirates. :smile_big:

OK I couldn't resist.
 

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I know you can on a 4 -wheeler as long as it's unloaded going to your spot on private property
Um, bad info. The law was changed/amended several years ago. If you have a license to carry firearms, you can carry a loaded firearm (handgun....not rifle or shotgun) on an ATV. Has nothing to do with private property, although that's pretty much the only place you can ride an ATV, unless the public road/property is open to such ATV travel.

And yes, you can carry on a boat if you have the LTCF.
 

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I would say it depends on where you are ....

I believe State Parks now allow concealed carry throughout the parks(check with DNRC to be sure *I'm no expert*). My local state park lake is a no hunting zone, so while you can carry concealed.... I doubt a "long gun" for protection would be OK. Now an hour away at another state park you are allowed to hunt most of the lake, so during a hunting season you would be OK as long as you were in the hunting areas.... not too sure about "summer time".

Also my local ACOE lake restricts weapons in "developed areas". They do allow hunting in the "undeveloped areas"..... haven't quite figured out how you are supposed to launch the boat (developed area) to get to your hunting spot. I can tell you that guys launch and go hunt with no issues. However if you were carrying concealed while sitting at one of the picnic tables they may take issue(of course they would only find out if something went wrong). At another "developed area" they allow you to park and walk to hunting areas, HOWEVER they will chase you for bow fishing there under the "no weapons in developed areas" rule.... I guess uncased/unloaded weapons are OK as long as you don't use them right there .... And by "developed" it means a parking lot + a porta-pot.

There is also a Federal Park an hour away.... they do not allow hunting within the park, so again no "long guns". You are now allowed to carry concealed at the park with the exception of some of the buildings.

Personally I'd get the carry permit, leave the long gun at home and double check with whatever authority runs the area.
 

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My understanding is that a LTCF does not cover long guns as they do not fall under the definition of "firearms" as defined in the National Firearms Act. Under the NFA long guns are referred to as rifles and shotguns.

Given the above info., with a LCTF, the only loaded weapon to be legally carried in a boat for protection would be a revolver, pistol, or properly registered short barreled rifle or shotgun . Loaded long guns would not be allowed at anytime aboard the boat for protection regardless if one had a LTCF. I would think you could take a properly cased and secured long gun aboard (unloaded) but I'm not certain.

That's how I understand the laws as they pertain to your situation, but do not take it as gospel. Always best to get an answer from a bonafide legal source.
 

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Sort of a grey area...And thanks for helping out. Wouldn't mind packing some AR or shotgun action in case of pirates...Not the one's from the Burgh....I'll be taking my AR onboard unloaded, if I get stopped we'll go from there. I don't care anymore, just want to protect my family and my belongings.
 

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I know this isn't what you had in mind , but until you get your permit , maybe a flare gun would suffice ? It's perfectly legal and on some bodies of water actually required .
 

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Just bought a used Lowe Roughneck after years since I had to sell my other. I don't have a concealed carry permit yet, let's just say I wanted to take a shotgun or a rifle along boating for protection, Is this legal? Thanks in advance!
Lawful with certain restrictions. See below:

Title 34, § 2503. Loaded firearms in vehicles.

(a) General rule.--Except as otherwise provided in this title, it is unlawful for any person to have a firearm of any kind in or on or against any conveyance propelled by mechanical power or its attachments at any time whether or not the vehicle or its attachment is in motion unless the firearm is unloaded. The exceptions in this subsection do not apply when attempting to locate game or wildlife with an artificial light or when exercising any privileges granted by this title which may be exercised only when not in the possession of a firearm.

(b) Exceptions.--This section shall not be construed to apply to:
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(5) Any motorboat or other craft having a motor attached or any sailboat if the motor has been completely shut off or the sail furled and its progress therefrom has ceased.
 
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